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Re:Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes by ALittleLight on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @01:21AM (#25843123)
I agree that the comment you are responding to is saddening, but I disagree with the characterization of the Capitol protesters as being treated with a "gentle touch". One unarmed woman was shot and killed, others were maced, beaten etc. Three other protesters died from causes that I've just seen described as "medical". This hardly seems like evidence of a light touch to me.

In my estimation the Capitol Police were some combination of surprised, unprepared, under-equipped, and under-manned. The police didn't seem to have any plans or preparation. Some police are seen standing aside and letting protesters in to the Capitol (which, I agree is a light touch, but I also saw police kneeling in solidarity with BLM protesters, which is also a light touch). Other police are brawling with protesters (which, I think is probably about the right level of violence, we just needed more police to be there doing it and for all the police there to understand what they were supposed to be doing).

I don't think the police should shoot Capitol protesters or BLM protesters. I do think they should use physical force against both when they do things that are unacceptable - e.g. entering the Capitol or destroying or looting stores. I would say both groups call for a similar medium touch.

Re:Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes by MrMorden on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:45AM (#25844050)
If the BLM protestors attempted to storm buildings defended by the federal police that were deployed to those protests, they'd have been mowed down with light machine guns. Had the police not rioted themselves, nothing would have happened even if BLM had come to fight because it would have been abundantly clear that escalation would not lead to rising property values in Tokyo.

The Capitol should have been much better fortified by a much larger force given that the FBI, MPD, and Capitol Police knew or should have known about this plan for months. Had the presence of several hundred officers with multiple layers of fencing and visibly-manned M249 positions not been sufficient to convince their vanguard to run away, they would have been able to escalate to spotlights, LRAD, and less-lethal projectiles before needing to go with the real deal. A suitable amount of publicity for these preparations could very well have resulted in the Q Cucks Klan deciding to find an excuse to either make it a legitimate protest or call the whole thing off.

The deaths would have been at most two or three rioters, and possibly a few who get trampled in the panicked retreat. That would have been a light touch; it accomplishes the objective using a minimum of force, and if they saw reason nobody would even have been scratched. A medium touch would just be shooting anyone who tries to breach the perimeter until they stop trying (which would have been totally legal); a heavy touch would have happened to the BLM protestors if they had escalated to violence.

Kneeling in solidarity with protesters is fine because neither the protestors or the officer are breaking the law or indeed doing anything wrong. Letting an enemy force (and that's absolutely what a crowd of people with unlawfully-possessed guns and Army of Northern Virginia battle flags is) past your position is at a minimum conspiracy to enter and remain in a federal building without authorization.

Re:Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes by blabitty on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @04:10AM (#25844238)
They attemtpted to storm a federal building in Portland every night for weeks without being "gunned down".
Re:Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes by minikites on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @09:50AM (#25847041)
No they didn't.
Re:Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes by nec4b on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @01:43PM (#25850205)
Re:Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes by krastanov on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:32PM (#25853814)
There is some disconnect here. These are violent right-wing rioters storming a state capitol building. The allegation of OP was that BLM protestors were doing something like that.
Re:Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes by nec4b on Thursday January 21, 2021 @03:08AM (#25856626)
Yes you are right, I posted the wrong link. Here is the correct one:

https://nypost.com/2020/07/26/portland-protest-declared-a-ri...