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Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by trident5000 on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @02:22PM (#25837586)
Another issue is how any individual frames either side and bases good and bad off of that, often using hyperbole, inaccuracies, wide brushes of their opposing views.

Where are all these “nazis” you say that word a lot. “My group” I didnt know I was in a group. You certainly seem to assume a lot and form knee jerk conclusions. Actually proving my point quite well.

Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by multjoy on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @04:04PM (#25838865)
The ‘Camp Auschwitz’ hoody and the “6MWE” (6 million Jews wasn’t enough) not enough of a signpost for you?
Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by trident5000 on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @04:20PM (#25839031)
Continuing to prove my point. "wide brushes of their opposing views" Thinking everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi because you saw a a guy with a t-shirt is something stupid people do.
Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by multjoy on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @04:52PM (#25839401)
Someone who thinks that the holocaust didn’t go far enough is, literally, a nazi.

The fact that this is something you’re in a state of active denial about is a ‘you’ problem, not a ‘me’ problem.

Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by trident5000 on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @05:02PM (#25839511)
Talking about some remote person or group of people and pretending it represents a nonexistent large population is insanity. There have always been fringe groups on both sides. The issue at hand is you have no perspective after being gaslit and think everyone you disagree with is a "nazi".
Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by multjoy on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @05:40PM (#25839907)
No, I don’t believe everyone who disagrees with me is a nazi. However, if I see a group of people displaying actual nazi sentiments then I will assume that all the group are either actual nazis or cool with being associated with nazis.

Remember, the OG antifa were on the beaches at Normandy.

Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by philwelch on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:55AM (#25845845)
No, they were a Stalinist street gang: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion
Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by trident5000 on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @05:59PM (#25840104)
Who, that little group or 70 million Americans? What are we talking about here.
Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by klmadfejno on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:36PM (#25851634)
Voting for trump doesn't mean you endorse the capitol insurrectionists. The world is more nuanced than right vs. left. Wide brushes go both ways. If you decide otherwise, then yeah, you're tacitly aligning yourself with the nazis.
Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by dragontamer on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @06:48PM (#25840602)
I severely doubt that 70 million Americans were holding anti-jewish flags / Confederate flags and beating officers with them on January 6th. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of conservatives are horrified at what they saw that day.

But if you want to paint the viewpoints of the entire 70-million with that kind of hatred, that's on you, not me.

Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by gamblor956 on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @06:31PM (#25840431)
We are talking about the little group of seditionists, trying so desperately hard to convince people that a larger group agrees with their goals or their tactics.

70 million people cast a vote based on political affiliations. And their side lost, and they accepted that. The commonality with the seditionists ends there.

Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by pbourke on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @07:19PM (#25840916)
> 70 million people cast a vote based on political affiliations. And their side lost, and they accepted that.

Did they, now?

"A CNN poll, released on Sunday and conducted by SSRS between January 9 and 14, shows that 75 percent of Republicans do not think that Biden won the election legitimately, compared to 1 percent of Democrats and 36 percent of independents."[0]

[0] https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-joe-biden-won-election-...

Re:Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook by klmadfejno on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:39AM (#25848495)
> Where are all these “nazis” you say that word a lot.

How about this guy, self identifying neo nazi, who live streamed himself going into the capitol?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

I use "your" in the general sense. I don't know who you are.

But here's the thing, you can be a conservative and not align with the opinions of nazis. But if you look at the nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups attacking the capitol; and say "I think they're working for a good cause", I'm going to make some assumptions.

If you stop and find yourself arguing similar talking points as nazi groups... I don't know what you expect to happen. This isn't hyperbole. These are literal nazi groups. We are so far removed from what should be a societally tolerable difference of opinion. It's not "conservatism" at play here.