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Re:Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebek... by elmomle on Sunday January 17, 2021 @11:10AM (#25811851)
The only person who put those children at risk was the mother who refused to cooperate with a legally signed warrant.

Wow, let's extend that reasoning just a bit further. If someone SWATs me (or pulls strings to get a warrant for my arrest), and I don't open the door immediately, I bear the responsibility for putting my family at risk?

Re:Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebek... by isoskeles on Sunday January 17, 2021 @12:04PM (#25812353)
Immediately? She had over 20 minutes of knocking and a few phone calls in that period. People should watch the video and think about how long of a time 20 minutes is. They’ll most likely even find it boring and start skipping ahead to more knocking without a response.
Re:Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebek... by MereInterest on Sunday January 17, 2021 @12:22PM (#25812606)
> She had over 20 minutes of knocking and a few phone calls in that period.

So what? If somebody is knocking on my door, in the middle of the night, claiming to be a police officer, then making phone calls to verify that is 100% reasonable. If I had just been fired for politically motivated reasons, then making phone calls to alert the media when your home is being raided is 100% reasonable.

> They’ll most likely even find it boring and start skipping ahead to more knocking without a response.

Police are allowed to be bored. Police are allowed to sit outside a house and wait. It does them no harm, and does not justify them using additional force when serving the warrant.

Re:Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebek... by SpicyLemonZest on Sunday January 17, 2021 @12:30PM (#25812697)
It was a sunny morning, not the middle of the night. Obviously that's a minor detail, but it's indicative of a larger problem - there's been a big game of telephone on the actual circumstances of this raid, so your mental image of what happened may be different than what the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of7ITokML-A) shows.
Re:Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebek... by MereInterest on Sunday January 17, 2021 @01:42PM (#25813508)
Good point, and thank you. The relevant pieces that I had remembered were that there was a police raid for a non-violent crime, and was emphasizing that that is not an urgent issue. It's the same way that if you see police lights pulling you over on a deserted road, you should call to verify that it is a legitimate officer.
Re:Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebek... by stretchcat on Sunday January 17, 2021 @01:12PM (#25813169)
Is the timestamp on that video accurate? T13:26 sounds like the early afternoon, not even the morning let alone late at night.
Re:Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebek... by isoskeles on Sunday January 17, 2021 @02:48PM (#25814218)
T13:26:00Z

Z is for "Zulu" time zone (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9706688/what-does-the-z-...)

So hour 13:00 in Z would be 8:00 am in Florida.

Re:Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebek... by MeinBlutIstBlau on Sunday January 17, 2021 @11:39AM (#25812139)
Swatting first of all is a crime. Secondly yes, you do need to comply, even if you are innocent. Otherwise you will get shot.

Nobody is denying it's government overreach, blatant disregard to our rights, and breaks the 4th amendment. But wool should've been over everyone's eyes like 10 years ago. The US acts no different than China in how the state allows government abuse of power to fuck you bureaucratically. Unlike places like Germany where the state compensates you for your time and money if they can't prove your criminality, also reserving your job as well unless convicted; The US just says fuck you but only with slightly more rights than China gives their citizens.