What it's like to be a nonprofit programmer

Re:What it's like to be a nonprofit programmer by musicale on Saturday January 16, 2021 @10:46PM (#25807909)

> I remember the local train system here, BART, was offering a software engineering job for something very close to about $100,000 a year. That’s not a lot in the Bay Area.

I assume wherever you live, nonprofit jobs won't pay well, but it's particularly bad in the Bay Area due to the cost of living and housing.

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Re:What it's like to be a nonprofit programmer by blackrock on Sunday January 17, 2021 @01:44AM (#25808712)

What is the minimum that Bay Area programmers are happy with?

Assuming you don’t work for FAANG companies.

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Re:What it's like to be a nonprofit programmer by permille42 on Sunday January 17, 2021 @02:21AM (#25808900)

Just look at the salary ranges for the various levels within FAANG companies. See http://levels.fyi

In both the Bay Area and Seattle if companies don't at least attempt to get close to these numbers they will not be able to get the best engineers from these areas.

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Re:What it's like to be a nonprofit programmer by blackrock on Sunday January 17, 2021 @02:32AM (#25808949)

I’m aware of the anonymous salary ranges. I’m more interested in individual feedback here.

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Re:What it's like to be a nonprofit programmer by permille42 on Sunday January 17, 2021 @02:41AM (#25808989)

Alright. I have around 20 years of experience in the industry. As far as levels go I'm between L6 and L7 Google level.

I consider anything less than $170k/yr these days to be insulting, regardless of whether they are FAANG or not. My last 3 non-FAANG position have paid that much / more.

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Re:What it's like to be a nonprofit programmer by alisonkisk on Sunday January 17, 2021 @08:56AM (#25810652)

That's about what senior government jobs pay.

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Re:What it's like to be a nonprofit programmer by barry-cotter on Sunday January 17, 2021 @09:27AM (#25810855)

That’s less than FAANG entry level salary for Silicon Valley. L3 at Google. L6 make almost half a million a year in total compensation.

> Google L3 TOTAL ESTIMATE $187,769

> L3 / T3 is the new grad software engineering role at Google

https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Google&track=Software%20Engi...

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Re:What it's like to be a nonprofit programmer by chris11 on Sunday January 17, 2021 @12:44PM (#25812856)

And at higher levels equity becomes a bigger portion of comp. So you can get 100k+ in equity a year as a senior IC.

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Re:What it's like to be a nonprofit programmer by permille42 on Sunday January 17, 2021 @11:25PM (#25818134)

Yes I agreed that for my experience and ability I get paid badly. It is one of the reasons I am a rather bitter and angry person.

On the other hand, I still make a lot of money compared to the majority of people. This is little consolation though after devoting so much time and effort in my life to what I do.

Hence I hate pretty much every engineer I come into contact with these days. A huge number of them make as much or more than I do, and have 1/3 the experience and knowledge.

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