Rust is a hard way to make a web API

Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by WClayFerguson on Friday January 15, 2021 @08:34PM (#25799031)

I think the world was almost tolerable before Go and Rust came along. We already had too many languages even before those two, but at least there was a clear leader: Java. Nowadays the market is completely fragmented.

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Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by AnimalMuppet on Friday January 15, 2021 @08:45PM (#25799098)

What's your issue? How exactly do more languages harm you? Or harm anyone? Is choice bad for some reason?

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Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by lolive on Friday January 15, 2021 @10:04PM (#25799623)

I think all languages do suffer from their initial design. And spend 5-years iteration to circumventing them. Java will have proper asynchronous management in 5 years, Go will have generics in 5 years, Rust will have a garbage collector variant in 5 years, Python and JavaScript will have full multithreading in 5 years.

In the end, no language is catching the whole problematic and solve it at once. So there is a programming language fatigue.

PS: when I say that things happen within a timeframe of 5 years, it includes the time to deliver the feature in the language, and people to massively adopt it, and new developped code to include it in mass.

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Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by galaxyLogic on Friday January 15, 2021 @10:38PM (#25799806)

Every new language is an attempt to fix some problems in the existing languages but at the same time be simple to learn and use. But the problem-space of programming is very complex. So while a new language does something better than some existing languages the language designers do not foresee all problems that may arise in actual use.

Maybe a way to proceed would be to have a common set of code which every new language would try to rewrite, and thus see how much better it is, or is not, than the existing ones. Comparative analysis.

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Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by WClayFerguson on Saturday January 16, 2021 @01:03AM (#25800447)

Exactly right. Each new language thinks they've simplified and solved problems, but in the end they end up having to solve the same old problems that have already been solved decades earlier lots of times.

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Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by WClayFerguson on Saturday January 16, 2021 @12:58AM (#25800422)

The ability share code is critical. For people to share and cooperate it's much better to have fewer languages, than 100s.

Companies are spending billions each year because of having to translate from one language to another.

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Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by manigandham on Saturday January 16, 2021 @09:53AM (#25802541)

Rebuilding similar functionality maybe but who's actually porting between languages?

Plus code can already be shared with various bindings. Lately there's been a big push with "microservices" or generally networked architectures so different components built in entirely different stacks can still interoperate just fine.

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