News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by manigandham on Friday January 15, 2021 @08:07PM (#25798841)
That's what Scala and Kotlin are, fixes for the original Java flavor. Then again, more alternatives are good for competition; and incubating and sharing new designs that aren't possible in a very old language.
Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by lumost on Friday January 15, 2021 @08:22PM (#25798970)
barring competition languages seem to stall out over time. Java fell out of favor because every java app turned into a pile of xml and factories that everyone hated and was slow to develop. The faster evolution of peer languages allowed for recognition of what people didn't like in Java (The ceremony of getting setup and invoking "app" logic).

The better parts of Scala, kotlin, and the guava library are steadily making their way into the language. But if there wasn't competition the language would absolutely stagnate again as risk aversion sets in.

Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by WClayFerguson on Friday January 15, 2021 @08:24PM (#25798978)
Right, I think the languages that compile JVM bytecode were much more heading in a better direction than the ones who said "let's have fun and just start from scratch, and further fragment the industry"
Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by acdha on Friday January 15, 2021 @10:43PM (#25799831)
Couldn’t you also say the same thing about Java not going with one of the earlier bytecoded VMs? Or, from the other direction, would we have seen more languages embrace the JVM if it’d been more open and things like invokedynamic had been added earlier?

I think there are some interesting points to made where you’re coming from, but this fragmented approach isn’t effectively making them. Something like a blog post might be better.

Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by WClayFerguson on Saturday January 16, 2021 @12:49AM (#25800390)
Here's a non-fragmented translation for ya: "The fewer languages there are the easier it is for developers to share code."
Re:Rust is a hard way to make a web API by klodolph on Friday January 15, 2021 @09:19PM (#25799335)
You’re just painting caricatures of language designers. Flamebait without substance.