Older people dying is not the only reason for the shutdowns. Health care being overwhelmed is another main reason, and it’s not just old people that end up in hospital.

The 45 - 64 age group has occupied the most hospital beds during the pandemic in my country (Scotland), and probably yours too if you dig out the stats.

> because it was our vaccine that did it

What makes you think that

It contributed to their deaths in the same way covid contributes to the death of someone with underlying conditions. Or what, will you say that it was the underlying conditions that killed them, and not covid? ;)

We don't know that

We are pretty sure that Covid caused the vast majority of those excess deaths

Very old people were not part of volunteer group, so this vaccine do have more severe side effects than extrapolated. They are changing the regime and skipping some of the frailest due to this. The vaccine will still provide protection for most.

How do you know it contributed to their death? How would it do so? There are clear ways underlying conditions can contribute to death by covid, but I’m not aware of any such thing with the vaccine.

Why do you think the vaccine did it?

Also fully Vaccinating is the only good way to end lockdowns. If you dislike lockdowns and want them to end and regular life to resume you should be be happy that we are Vaccinating and not make unsupported accusations

Difference is you can't transmit a vaccine to someone else, isn't it?

These appear to be elderly patients in care homes. The CFR if they get covid is pretty horrifying. If I was 90, I'd take the vaccine.

Indeed. My grandmother is 90 and got the vaccine yesterday, which was a huge relief to her and the rest of the family.