Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by iamacyborg on Friday January 15, 2021 @12:56PM
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Oh I know, I just get irrationaly annoyed by people calling this stuff dubstep. It feels like half the problem is people and/or clubs don't have soundsystems appropriate for playing bass-heavy music at the right level, so they end up listening to stuff that's light on the low-end but still calling it "dubstep".
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by 1MachineElf on Friday January 15, 2021 @01:04PM
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You are probably right. For EDM, cultural differences have kept the US lagging behind Europe and the UK. EDM-specific clubs are not common outside of major cities known for nightlife. A lot of EDM tours end up at venues that aren't designed for EDM. These are the conditions informing people's tastes, so probably a big factor for why bass isn't as prominent as elsewhere. There truly are fans an places where it is very much alive, just not as strong as other places IMO.
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by the_local_host on Friday January 15, 2021 @02:35PM
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Brostep may be Dubstep Disneyland, but I'm not sure if being unconcerned with filing music in the right subcategory counts as "lagging".
The bass music underground is alive and well in many parts of the US.
Mainstream it is not, and THANK GOD for that
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by blovescoffee on Friday January 15, 2021 @04:16PM
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Pretty much every genre changes significantly over its lifetime though. It seems like you could just say you like early dubstep just like people say, "I like old school hip hop" all the time.
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by iamacyborg on Friday January 15, 2021 @04:26PM
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I get what you’re saying but the sound is so completely different it’s not a simple evolution of style.
Listen to dnb from two decades ago you can still see where current stuff comes from. Compare early Digital Mystikz stuff with Skrillex and you wouldn’t call them the same thing.
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by rorykoehler on Friday January 15, 2021 @01:35PM
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This still gets played on a weekly basis in our house https://youtu.be/qwCr9QRNMc4
To save a click... It’s the garage track largely credited as the birth of dubstep
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by jk7tarYZAQNpTQa on Friday January 15, 2021 @02:49PM
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"Zed Bias - Neighbourhood" is actually regarded as one of the first dubstep songs, or at least a transition one.
Here are some other "true" dubstep tracks, in no particular order:
- Burial - Archangel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J1gvgwHblI
- Rusko - Jahova https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OE_jjJkkD8
- Coleco - Taostic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krGadL6Je6A
- Kode9 - 9 Samurai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-rEAe4C8gk
- Skream - Mignight Request Line https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJGXRQ9vBoU
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by zebraflask on Friday January 15, 2021 @03:20PM
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I'd make a case for El-B, too:
Express: https://youtu.be/SLbXmPvtZXA
A lot of proto-wobble in this one.
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by rorykoehler on Monday January 18, 2021 @03:57AM
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Nice list. Added all to my Youtube playlist. Have also heard Sjream - Mignight Request Line mentioned as the first dubstep tune.
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by iamacyborg on Friday January 15, 2021 @03:30PM
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I’d say Rusko is responsible for the whole brostep thing. You can see how it all grew from his tunes.
Yeah, Woo Boost was a divergence point for the genre for sure.
It's still very garage/2steppy. I think Anti War Dub by Digital Mystikz is generally considered the birth of dubstep. Of course, ask 10 people and you'll get 10 answers.
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by iamacyborg on Friday January 15, 2021 @03:37PM
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Midnight Request Line is the one I hear most frequently.
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by beaconstudios on Friday January 15, 2021 @10:04PM
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Midnight Request Line was the first dubstep song to go mainstream (IIRC Annie Mac picked it up), but the genre existed before that point. It's a great song though.
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by rorykoehler on Monday January 18, 2021 @03:51AM
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Annie Mac made dubstep go mainstream? TIL.
Side anecdote... My oldest bro was in a band with her brother Davey in school and my second oldest bro was in her class.
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by iamacyborg on Saturday January 16, 2021 @04:40AM
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Oh I know, I’ve got the first few DMZ releases on vinyl but that seems like the first track that started to hit public consciousness.
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by beaconstudios on Friday January 15, 2021 @10:03PM
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El-B's "Ghost Rider" is often credited as the first dubstep track too.
Listening to the Skrillex samples in the article, it just sounds like DnB but... obnoxious.
The Loefah track in the parent comment though, I can get behind that.
Re:Encoding Data in Dubstep Drops
by iamacyborg on Friday January 15, 2021 @01:43PM
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It's even more obnoxious than breakcore, which is saying a lot.
Same, I did not know Skrillex but I dislike this style.
On the other hand I love Fonik, for example.
I love even more Deadmau5, E.T.H, ...
Personally, I'm not a fan of this shift. I prefer EDM from the era of the track you linked to, and/or contemporary artists who emulate the older styles.