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Re:The Spoon Theory (2003) by Ensorceled on Friday January 15, 2021 @06:35AM (#25789659)
The arguments of those against automation are that it eliminates jobs and consolidates wealth to the owners of the automation facilities, completely eliminating the contribution of laid off workers who go on to work menial jobs else where.

How this "spoons" analogy a good argument against that?

Re:The Spoon Theory (2003) by hhjinks on Friday January 15, 2021 @07:02AM (#25789878)
That's not an argument against automation, it's an argument against capitalism.
Re:The Spoon Theory (2003) by Ensorceled on Friday January 15, 2021 @07:10AM (#25789951)
It's both. But it's definitely an argument I've heard used against increasing automation multiple times including in historical contexts, so I'm unsure why you are saying it is not.
Re:The Spoon Theory (2003) by TeMPOraL on Friday January 15, 2021 @07:11AM (#25789968)
Indeed it is. And if you look at it, most of the arguments against tech in general - including all the hand-wringing about AI, privacy and evil tech bros - they're all arguments against capitalism. But it would be boring to repeat the same thing that's been repeated for the past 100+ years, so people instead confuse symptoms with cause.
Re:The Spoon Theory (2003) by alisonkisk on Friday January 15, 2021 @09:38AM (#25791422)
If capitalism is defined as "everything people do that has has negative externalities" that's tautological and useless.
Re:The Spoon Theory (2003) by TeMPOraL on Friday January 15, 2021 @09:56AM (#25791632)
It's not that. All these things have a common root cause in the form of businesses accumulating capital and making decisions to abuse people. The public discourse is distracted by focusing on minutia - AI does this, robots do that - instead of noticing the common thread: business people decide to use this technology to hurt people.
Re:The Spoon Theory (2003) by alisonkisk on Friday January 15, 2021 @09:37AM (#25791407)
We don't always get to pick independently. Capitalism is largely a force of nature. Even Communist societies end up becoming state-owned capitalist.