Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools
by Bud on Thursday January 14, 2021 @11:36PM
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20ms is actually equivalent to playing/singing with someone around 20 feet away from you, on a stage. (Sound travels around 1.13 feet per millisecond.)
Many of us in classical music are doing this all the time. So it's definitely doable. Especially if you have a conductor! Indeed, that's one of the reasons conductors are useful.
Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools
by dash2 on Friday January 15, 2021 @06:42AM
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But the conductor is exactly what solves the problem, and which one can't use when one is working via Zoom because of latency.
Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools
by pmiller2 on Friday January 15, 2021 @02:15AM
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If you don't have a conductor, always, always, always follow the soloist or concert master, which ever one you have.
Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools
by gorkish on Saturday January 16, 2021 @01:59AM
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Listening to yourself on a 20ms delay is a far different thing than listing to someone else on the same delay. The latter is what you experience in every day life all the time as sound travels about 1ms/foot. The former causes a negative feedback loop that will cause problems as you try in vain to effect an impossible correction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_Auditory_Feedback
Even just the difference between local loopback (instrument -> headphones) vs instrument -> USB -> PC -> USB -> headphones, feels like playing with someone continually dragging the tempo down.
I'm sure I could relearn and adapt to >10ms, but this is a far cry from a live experience of playing with others, and I am definitely not alone in my cohort (after trying several low latency remote meetup configurations).