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Re:Bill and Melinda Gates: America’s Top Farmland Owner by hinkley on Thursday January 14, 2021 @02:51PM (#25781512)
Even if you sell it as a divestiture plan, that constant pressure has consequences on the stock price. I think in some cases you can list stock holdings as collateral on a loan, in which case you can derive a similar cash benefit from the stocks as you would get from selling it, meanwhile not incurring the social and political consequences of selling your holding.

Bill, as I recall, had a much larger percentage of MSFT when he retired. Microsoft used to dilute their shares via employee stock grants, so I'm not sure how much of that is attrition and how much is divestiture on his part. One source on the internet says he was estimated to owns 4.3% as recently as two years ago. And I see another article from March of last year talking about him leaving the board of directors, and owning 1.36%.

I wonder if anyone has analyzed how much of the MSFT stock stagnation that occurred after his retirement could be attributed to his divestiture plan, rather than Ballmer's fault.

Re:Bill and Melinda Gates: America’s Top Farmland Owner by somethoughts on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:02PM (#25781690)
Was just thinking about this the other day. Not only does the incoming CEO have big leadership shoes to fill, the incoming CEO has to deal with the previous founder CEO unloading shares every quarter which essentially appears to the general market as a vote of no confidence. In Ballmer's case he also had to contend with the dotcom bubble bursting.
Re:Bill and Melinda Gates: America’s Top Farmland Owner by ender341341 on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:12PM (#25781827)
I think unless the founder is liquidating en-masse it's usually a non-event. Even in the click-batey articles I read about those they always include something about how it's normal and been planned for the last year when a CEO sells their stock
Re:Bill and Melinda Gates: America’s Top Farmland Owner by hinkley on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:59PM (#25782414)
It's not a non-event, it's just invisible. A divestiture plan is erosion instead of a mud slide.

The swing in the stock price every day is fueled by supply and demand. The stock goes up 20c because the only person selling it wants a little more than the last sale price. It goes down 20c when someone wants to sell at the last price but the only people willing to pay that much already bought their shares. And that's not even including what happens to stop and limit orders that trigger automatically when the stock swings just a little bit farther than people anticipated. Just a small shift changes the slope of the price trend, which may cause people to shift demand away from that stock.

These days, when I'm mostly hands-off with my portfolio, more of my orders expire than actually trigger. Sometimes only just missing having done so.

It's part of the magic thinking about the stock market. We don't often discuss it in this sort of thread, but we definitely do when people are talking about HFT and AI for stock purchases and sales. Your orders don't happen in a vacuum, and they can affect future orders.

Re:Bill and Melinda Gates: America’s Top Farmland Owner by somethoughts on Thursday January 14, 2021 @05:23PM (#25783599)
Yes - that's probably the challenging part for the incoming CEO - its an invisible headwind for them. If you think about over a two decades - Gates/Paul Allen going from 50% ownership in 2000 when they both retired to 20% ownership in 2010 to 0% around when Nadella took over - it must have some impact.
Re:Bill and Melinda Gates: America’s Top Farmland Owner by WalterBright on Thursday January 14, 2021 @02:56PM (#25781601)
It was reported in the 80's that Gates had regular scheduled (to avoid insider trading allegations and spooking investors) sales of MSFT stock.