Apple removes first-party firewall exemption in macOS 11.2 beta 2

Re:Apple removes first-party firewall exemption in macOS 11.... by sneak on Thursday January 14, 2021 @11:47AM (#25778587)

I don't think it's inaccurate; the IC pays the data providers (presumably for implementation/overhead) for receiving the FAA702 (PRISM/FISA) data.

Which data is picked by the US government, and no warrant is required. Apple provided data on 30,000+ users to the US government without a warrant in 2019, per their own transparency report.

If they received money for the program, they are indeed "selling user data to [the] US government".

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Re:Apple removes first-party firewall exemption in macOS 11.... by nr2x on Thursday January 14, 2021 @01:17PM (#25779927)

A reimbursement for effort/overhead is not the same as selling for profit. Again, there *really are companies who sell consumer data to law enforcement for profit*, so it's important to use the correct language and make the appropriate distinction. Do I like that Apple does that? No. Do I think the actual policy conversation is best served by accuracy in language? Yes.

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Re:Apple removes first-party firewall exemption in macOS 11.... by dahfizz on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:02PM (#25781689)

You're just playing word games. Apple gave user information to the US government in return for money. That's selling.

Nitpicking about whether they made a profit has no bearing on the statement “Apple selling user data to US government”.

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