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Re:German police take down 'world's largest darknet marketpl... by enkid on Thursday January 14, 2021 @08:15AM (#25775913)
Legalization has not stopped alcohol poisoning. Is there some reason it would stop heroin overdoses?
Re:German police take down 'world's largest darknet marketpl... by chefkoch on Thursday January 14, 2021 @11:22AM (#25778215)
Because we have data to back this up. Countries like the Netherlands or Portugal have was fewer OD deaths than countries where a hard drugs use is more punished.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/632372/total-number-of-d...

https://transformdrugs.org/drug-decriminalisation-in-portuga...

Re:German police take down 'world's largest darknet marketpl... by enkid on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:03PM (#25781701)
Thank you. That's very useful to know.
Re:German police take down 'world's largest darknet marketpl... by that_guy_iain on Thursday January 14, 2021 @09:35AM (#25776738)
It's not so much it stops them but saving their life if they have one. If you see someone overdosing from heroin and intervene the person can live. Whereas, if they're sat alone in some house they'll die. Saferooms are about watching them and making sure they get medical treatment if needed. But then there is also the purity issue someone else mentioned.
Re:German police take down 'world's largest darknet marketpl... by barry-cotter on Thursday January 14, 2021 @08:22AM (#25775982)
Known purity, quality control, known quantity. If you actually know how much it’ll take you to get high you’re not going to overdose because you coverage got a stronger than average batch. You certainly aren’t going to get fentanyl sold as heroin.

Wouldn’t stop overdoses entirely obviously.

Re:German police take down 'world's largest darknet marketpl... by rtisdale on Thursday January 14, 2021 @10:13AM (#25777217)
Can't reply directly to SirSourdough because of thread limits.

>I don't think this really address the point though. Alcohol is sold with known purity, quality, and quantity. You aren't going to overdose due to an impurity.

Their argument was never that it would stop everything, only that it would help (and I agree).

How many people have you met that have gone blind from drinking "bad" alcohol? During the prohibition era, this was an actual issue people faced.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/drink/alcohol-history/prohibit...

>A major decline in the risk per use massively outweighed by a huge increase in use over time due to legalization.

There is evidence that decriminalization when paired with other policies can potentially cause decreases in usage as well as a decrease in negative outcomes such as HIV transmission rates and drug deaths.

https://transformdrugs.org/drug-decriminalisation-in-portuga....

Re:German police take down 'world's largest darknet marketpl... by SirSourdough on Thursday January 14, 2021 @09:55AM (#25776992)
I don't think this really addresses the point though. Alcohol is sold with known purity, quality, and quantity. You aren't going to overdose due to an impurity.

Yet dangerous drinking is still very common, and alcohol causes significant strains on our society, perhaps more than any other drug. Why do we think that the situation would be different with legalizing other drugs? A major decline in the risk per use massively outweighed by a huge increase in use over time due to legalization.