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Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by nickthegreek on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @03:31PM (#25753124)
That Greenwald tweet isn't aging well. https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by Bootvis on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @03:55PM (#25753505)
I was confused as the linked threat didn’t seemed to have aged particularly badly. However, lower in the thread Greenwald claims that the insurrectionists organized on Facebook and 0 of them on Parker.
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by nickthegreek on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @04:07PM (#25753673)
Thanks, I didn't realize it linked to the top thread and not the specific tweet.

"Do you know how many of the people arrested in connection with the Capitol invasion were active users of Parler?

Zero.

The planning was largely done on Facebook. This is all a bullshit pretext for silencing competitors on ideological grounds: just the start."

Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by BitwiseFool on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @05:00PM (#25754512)
Any viable social media competitor needs critical mass. A conservative exodus to Parler would be one way to make that happen. Big tech just squashed a competitor while the "iron was hot" for Parler and even if it comes back online it might never get the network effect it could have gotten.
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by dragontamer on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @05:10PM (#25754629)
lobste.rs seems to be doing fine as a discussion site aimed at technologists.

This "hypergrowth at all costs" mindset is pretty suffocating. There's plenty of niche sites that are successful without the need of trying to be the biggest in the world.

Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by dfxm12 on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @04:23PM (#25753919)
Then maybe it's worth taking the whole thread into consideration.

The zero arrests comment probably is incorrect, but, does that take away from the larger point, especially with regards to the context of the nyt article?

Tl;dr: he made a lot of tweets on this subject. Cherry picking one part of one tweet doesn't say much about his overall point.

Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by mint2 on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @06:30PM (#25755560)
Greenwald cannot object to cherry picking and ignoring context without being a hypocrite.
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by dragontamer on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @04:23PM (#25753921)
Thanks. I was about to comment about how things didn't seem to line up based off of the top-level tweet. I'm glad that yall scrolled down further than I did.
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by sibeliuss on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @03:39PM (#25753257)
TBH, it's almost an act of bad faith, or deliberate disinformation, to write that tweet.
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by mhh__ on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @04:25PM (#25753949)
That describes a lot of what he gets up to these days. There's a reason why The Intercepts article on him leaving is as close as you can politely get to physically disowning him and his work.
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by danudey on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @07:52PM (#25756427)
I hadn't read that article, so I googled it, and assuming this[0] is the correct one, wow.

Some choice excerpts, which are even better in context so read the article:

> The narrative Glenn presents about his departure is teeming with distortions and inaccuracies — all of them designed to make him appear as a victim, rather than a grown person throwing a tantrum.

> it was he who was attempting to recycle the dubious claims of a political campaign — the Trump campaign — and launder them as journalism.

> We have the greatest respect for the journalist Glenn Greenwald used to be

> We have no doubt that Glenn will go on to launch a new media venture where he will face no collaboration with editors — such is the era of Substack and Patreon. In that context, it makes good business sense for Glenn to position himself as the last true guardian of investigative journalism and to smear his longtime colleagues and friends as partisan hacks.

[0] https://theintercept.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-resigns-...

Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by eachro on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @03:57PM (#25753535)
Yup. He could have removed the entire sentence about Parler and the tweet would retain most of its meaning.
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by Uhhrrr on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @03:59PM (#25753564)
It could still be true - perhaps the arrestees weren't actively using it but other people who just wandered around and posted were.
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by darkarmani on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @04:14PM (#25753770)
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by Uhhrrr on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @04:23PM (#25753918)
Parler is probably basing their statement on looking up arrestee names in their database.
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by wtfiswiththis on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @04:07PM (#25753664)
Greenwald has been an activist for years.

I recall him finding the most tenuous of reasons to defend Assad and Putin's conduct in Syria. It kept falling apart as the regime kept conducting further chemical weapons attacks. Everything could be dismissed as some grand imperialist plot against Assad. The goal posts moved dozens of times always in reaction to further news that detailed different aspects of the chemical weapons campaign.

Greenwald kept finding ways to dismiss the citizens on the ground. Because surely RT.com knows better.

He then kept dismissing the joint international investigation team while it was in the field. Because surely Assad's own press releases know better.

After awhile he deleted his Twitter timeline[1]. Greenwald is not a journalist when he carries forward narratives like this, he is an activist. Just like when he carried forward narratives from "Guccifer 2.0" aka Kremlin during the 2016 election. What he is doing here seems really similar to his conduct from that era. He thought he found -the thing- that exempts something he want to defend from ire. Now an entire narrative is build around it. His little personal fort.

I'll never be able to forgive Glenn for using his name on Twitter to beat down Syrians who were giving first hand testimony and video evidence. He engaged against them like they were his enemy, likely because they were the enemy of his favored narrative and biases. Disgusting.

Here is an archived version of his tweet[2]. You'll need it in time after he commits another purge when he moves onto the next indefensible right wing trope he feels like picking up.

[1] https://twitter.com/im_pulse/status/1022690869139464192

[2] https://archive.vn/cmxFp

Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by raarts on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @04:57PM (#25754479)
I don't like this. Please comment on what he states in his tweet, instead of bringing up old ones. When you're right, you're right. Regardless of your past.
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by watwut on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @05:12PM (#25754655)
Greenwald has credibility because of his reporting on Snowden. That is primary and basically only reason why he is celebrity.

And due to that, for many (including me in past) he is given trust and benefits of doubt other people don't. So I see parent comment quite relevant - the truth telling is matter of past.

Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by refurb on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @06:57PM (#25755841)
Using Parler doesn’t mean the planning wasn’t done on Twitter and Facebook.
Re:Parler Users Breached Deep Inside U.S. Capitol Building, ... by selimthegrim on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @05:40PM (#25754987)
Does Greenwald not understand what sideloading an app is?