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Re:Why Isn’t Telegram End-to-End Encrypted by Default (2017) by pmlnr on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:58PM (#25736796)
Neither does XMPP, given it doesn't store it ;)
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Re:Why Isn’t Telegram End-to-End Encrypted by Default (2017) by snvzz on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:03PM (#25736917)
But XMPP has the non-trivial problem of e2ee as an extension added very late and not the default.

I can't suggest XMPP to non-technical people, because I know they'll end up talking to each other with neither e2ee nor awareness of lack of e2ee.

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Re:Why Isn’t Telegram End-to-End Encrypted by Default (2017) by kitkat_new on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:25PM (#25737343)
> Neither does XMPP, given it doesn't store it ;)

and how is it achieved when you want that? Standard feature that is expected by people using Telegram, Matrix, Slack, etc.

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Re:Why Isn’t Telegram End-to-End Encrypted by Default (2017) by pmlnr on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:32PM (#25737481)
Not by the people used to WhatsApp. That doesn't do it either.
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