Why Isn’t Telegram End-to-End Encrypted by Default (2017)

Re:Why Isn’t Telegram End-to-End Encrypted by Default (2017) by pmlnr on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:56PM (#25736741)

> it was added way too late in the game.

That is not a thing with XMPP. The very essence of it is adding things in, and OMEMO is quite good.

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Re:Why Isn’t Telegram End-to-End Encrypted by Default (2017) by snvzz on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:02PM (#25736892)

I'm well aware of how XMPP works as I've been using it from the start.

It is with this knowledge that I cannot recommend XMPP.

e2ee should be at the core. Not as an entirely optional extension added decades after.

As I already stated, because I want the non-technical inclined to have privacy, I can only support options where e2ee is the default.

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Re:Why Isn’t Telegram End-to-End Encrypted by Default (2017) by kitkat_new on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:20PM (#25737244)

try having verified e2ee conversations with XMPP - good luck.

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Re:Why Isn’t Telegram End-to-End Encrypted by Default (2017) by snvzz on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:30PM (#25737445)

I've been having them for over a decade.

The "only" problem is that it isn't easy, and thus most people do not use them at all.

Therefore, I cannot recommend XMPP.

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Re:Why Isn’t Telegram End-to-End Encrypted by Default (2017) by pmlnr on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:28PM (#25737418)

Doing it actively. Try Conversations.

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Re:Why Isn’t Telegram End-to-End Encrypted by Default (2017) by kitkat_new on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:46PM (#25737741)

how many contacts with how many devices do you have there?

can't be many

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