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Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by jlkuester7 on Monday January 11, 2021 @02:52PM (#25735372)
> It is a bit disingenuous to suggest that because Parler is down, "mom and pop" websites with comment section attached now need to lawyer up.

This is definitely a straw-man, but at the same time, if your website hosts user-supplied content and you don't have a rock-solid strategy for moderating it, then yeah you probably should be worried. (Though the spammers will probably take down your site long before AWS...)

Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by rirarobo on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:10PM (#25735755)
I disagree, you don't need a "rock-solid strategy for moderating" "user-supplied content", you just need a user base that is by and large not inciting violence, particularly against government officials.

If I run some hobbyist forum where say 1 in 1000 users is posting hate speech or calling for violence, as long as I have less-than-rock-solid moderation that can clean up some of their posts and ban the worst offenders based on user reports, I wouldn't be too worried. It's also in my interest to keep the community healthy.

Now, if 20% or 50% of my users are posting hate speech and calling for violence, yeah I would be worried, but I would be less worried about moderation, and more worried about why my hobby attracts extremists. Might call for some self reflection.

Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by jlkuester7 on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:19PM (#25735931)
It sounds like you have done your risk analysis and settled on an balance of risk and moderation effort that is acceptable to you. That sounds fair to me.

> Now, if 20% or 50% of my users are posting hate speech and calling for violence, yeah I would be worried, but I would be less worried about moderation, and more worried about why my hobby attracts extremists. Might call for some self reflection.

LOL! I think this is actually the right take! Definitely also applies to your social network...

Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by user22 on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:49PM (#25737790)
Just a thought....

Maybe it doesn't attract extremists. Maybe extremists just happened to randomly pick your site as the latest site to use for communication.

Just theorizing here, but assume that instead of hosting their own content, web sites with comments are hijacked to host extremists propaganda/plans/violent event, with a pointer to the next web site to use (not IF) but when the current one gets shut down.

The only way to avoid this is to moderate the comments before they are allowed to be displayed. And I'm betting there are a thousand+ web sites that are run by amateurs where this is the last thing on their minds.

Hopefully the fact that scaling and searching would be impossible makes this a non-issue.

Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by lindenksv85 on Monday January 11, 2021 @07:41PM (#25740640)
Sure but AWS isn’t run by robots (yet!). It’s run by people who understand context and intent. I also very seriously doubt that Parler was turned off without any notice. If a company was getting abused like that, I think AWS would try to help them.
Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by b0bb1z3r0 on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:28PM (#25736135)
winning argument right here
Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by tlholaday on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:01PM (#25735558)
No, the lesson of Parler is not that you need to have

> ... a rock-solid strategy for moderating ...

The lesson is you need to have a rock-solid `policy` that content which advocates violence is impermissible.

Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by jlkuester7 on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:13PM (#25735813)
Unfortunately I cannot reference Parlor's actual Community Guidelines (https://legal.parler.com/documents/guidelines.pdf) since the site is down for some reason. :)

However, based on what is described here (https://theconversation.com/parler-what-you-need-to-know-abo...) `there are policies against “fighting words” and “threats of harm”. This includes “a threat of or advocating for violation against an individual or group”.`

Based on recent examples of Parlor posts it seems like the Parlor moderators were not adequately enforcing this policy.

Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by threeseed on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:31PM (#25737466)
Pretty sure Parlor had no official moderators.

Just the community self-moderating themselves.

Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by mcguire on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:31PM (#25736178)
"a rock-solid strategy for moderating it"

You mean, like Facebook and Twitter?