Re:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked ...
by vbezhenar on Monday January 11, 2021 @02:15PM
(#25734600)
You're silenced by moderators or you're silenced by users. I don't see much difference in the end.
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Re:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked ...
by rootusrootus on Monday January 11, 2021 @02:34PM
(#25735014)
There's a huge difference. The freedom to disagree is a fundamental part of free speech. The very fact that you get a big response from the community means you are definitely being heard. They just don't agree with you. When moderators do it, nobody even sees what you are saying.
Re:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked ...
by jandrese on Monday January 11, 2021 @05:15PM
(#25738189)
Have you ever considered the notion that maybe your views are unpopular? Possibly even misinformed?
Maybe if everyone disagrees with something you say, it's not the rest of the world's fault?
Are you Principal Skinner going "Am I so out of touch? No, it is the children who are wrong."
Re:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked ...
by Zuider on Monday January 11, 2021 @05:58PM
(#25739040)
This can go both ways. A majority view may be held complacently without being challenged much or often. A minority view encounters constant resistance and reminders that it is not held by many, and may potentially be more robust because of that. Either way, a belief ought to be based on facts and sound reasoning rather than group pressure, and even the most strongly held position ought to be held provisionally and subject to revision in the light of human fallibility.
Re:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked ...
by shuntress on Monday January 11, 2021 @06:48PM
(#25739936)
>a belief ought to be based on facts and sound reasoning
Sounds good but what happens when a loud group bases their beliefs on alternative facts (and select only alternative facts that specifically support their belief)?
Re:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked ...
by dragonwriter on Monday January 11, 2021 @06:50PM
(#25739968)
> a belief ought to be based on facts and sound reasoning
What is the basis for this belief?
Re:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked ...
by lc9er on Monday January 11, 2021 @02:34PM
(#25735001)
The difference is that the community observed your opinion and decided it provided no value. That could be a pro or con, based on many factors.
Re:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked ...
by jimbokun on Monday January 11, 2021 @02:54PM
(#25735409)
Comments "silenced" by users can generally still be found by sorting by "controversial".
Re:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked ...
by baby on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:54PM
(#25736711)
I think you’re commenting without having tried to post on r/conservative
Re:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked ...
by Lutger on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:00PM
(#25735546)
Not being listened to is very different from being silenced.
Re:70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked ...
by malandrew on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:18PM
(#25735916)
If the first few people to see something downvotes you into oblivion before the majority arriving later get a chance to see your content, that's silencing, not merely not being listened to. This is doubly true when those first few people are likely to be regulars that refresh pages often. This means that a few people that are ideologically on the same page can drive the ideological view of an entire forum without actually being a moderator.