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Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by hashbig on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:01PM (#25731798)
I remember very well as a middle eastern how ISIS was freely allowed to use Twitter, Facebook and Youtube for recruitment and propaganda in 2015 and none of those platforms did anything about it. Also just today this story was on the front page in HN: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/technology/myanmar-facebo...

So spare us all the "No hate and violence on our platform" BS. Either you go after all hate and violence or you are just a hypocrite.

Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by trsohmers on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:23PM (#25732219)
The US government asked Twitter and other social media sites not to ban certain groups of ISIS twitter accounts until they were able to gain enough information... afterwards Twitter had no problem deleting hundreds of thousands of ISIS/other extremist accounts en mass.
Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by ccsnags on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:04PM (#25732991)
There’s plenty of hate on Twitter. They won’t go after all hate and they don’t care that you think they are hypocrites.

Stop trying to convince these people of hypocrisy. They aren’t listening to critics and they lack the ability to see the world outside of the tight frame they were provided. We are all like this most of the time but I find that the moral panics have created situations where online communication is not possible along political lines.

Focus on you, not them. People who build ideas from self-reflection are less volatile and not as susceptible to moral panic than those who define themselves by politics.

If all people tried as hard to understand each other as they do framing their political opponents as evil, we wouldn’t be in this place. Interesting times.

Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by Saint_Genet on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:23PM (#25732217)
What kind of world are you trying to advocate with comments like these? Just because you soiled the bed in the past you should just keep doing it?
Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by wilsynet on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:44PM (#25732632)
I mostly agree with this, that we should do more about hate and violence. And do it more consistently and transparently.

To the best of my knowledge, YouTube tries hard to do this. And Twitter has been trying to do a better job at this. And Facebook hasn't been particularly good about doing this at all. If I am completely wrong about this, someone should set the record straight.

Perhaps their position is evolving. I'd be curious to revisit the evolution of this problem 365 days from now and take another checkpoint.

Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by btbuildem on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:55PM (#25732827)
Cynical take? I think Twitter and others are acting on advice of counsel, scared they'll be considered an accessory to insurrection.

But... horses, barn, door

Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by valuearb on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:50PM (#25732743)
Whataboutism! Whataboutism!

The fact that a platform didn’t do the right thing before, doesn’t mean it can’t do it now.

What, you came out of the womb with perfect understanding of right from wrong?

Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by flyinglizard on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:00PM (#25732910)
I don't think Twitter had any difficulty discerning right from wrong when it came to ISIS, even back in 2016.
Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by valuearb on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:38PM (#25733738)
Which is why it did the right thing at the request of US intelligence services, and kept them up so they could track and gain info on them.
Re:Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support by hcurtiss on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:52PM (#25737846)
Revealing a political bias evidenced by selective enforcement is not "whataboutism." It's informing motive.