Maybe your takeaway there should be, "oh shit, I would have exactly the same thing, I need to rearrange my priorities so that I don't hurt people".

It sounds like that was his takeaway, except that for him it was coming from a place of empathy and not anger.

I did not hear that.

You're exactly right. I love your attitude. But for the grace of God there go I.

Well, here's the thing. I don't go there. I do my best to have morals and principles that stop me from putting users at risk. I would push back at anyone telling me to do this.

If you go there but for the grace of God, that is a bad thing. You should not. You should figure out how not to do that.

Well, having empathy with growth hackers is reprehensible and worth critiquing. The idea of growing a business for the sake of having a big business is horrifying; it's the desire to explicitly build a large social institution and use it to damage and oppress people.

From that perspective, you're the one lacking in empathy; you would like us to have our sympathies lie with the few who build businesses, rather than the many who are harmed by the business.

I think you are allowed to have empathy for both.

But only one was displayed here.