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Re:Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackabl... by korla on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:55AM (#25725142)
Are you suggesting it is not in a society's interest to limit hate speech against minorities? Because that is what is being discussed.
Re:Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackabl... by coldtea on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:38AM (#25725457)
Parent is probably suggesting that:

(a) what is "hate speech" is a vague term to be filled by whoever yields the power to define it (could be anything from talk against religion, to conservative worldviews, to class-war ideas, to racist beliefs, to complaints against politicians, and so on).

(b) what is a minority can also be vague and politically determined as opposed through raw numbers, and the power of a minority could be more than its size tells us (e.g. the 1% is a class-based minority, but most don't have an issue with going against them. Similarly, in certain cases it's one or more minorities that have the power against the majority - e.g. the fewer white-spanish descendants over indians and mulatos in some Latin American countries, or the white 20% against the blacks 80% in appartheid South Africa).

So, no, it's not clear cut that it's "in a society's interest to limit hate speech against minorities".

Re:Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackabl... by korla on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @01:14AM (#25743041)
Hate speech is when you promote violence or persecution in some other way against any of the groups you mentioned. I am not sure what point A has to do with what hate speech is.
Re:Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackabl... by korla on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @01:06AM (#25742965)
I believe you are conflating the definition of minority in this context. It means a disenfranchised portion of the population.
Re:Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackabl... by fatsdomino001 on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:08AM (#25725233)
Incorrect. You're discussing censoring people with a different opinion than you, but using minorities as political cover, which is morally dubious.
Re:Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackabl... by korla on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @01:12AM (#25743023)
That is not what I am discussing. I am making a statement about how to design a stable society with humane values. From the perspective of the society. Instead you went to make judgements about my personal beliefs.