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Re:Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends a... by feanaro on Sunday January 10, 2021 @06:47PM (#25721786)
Apart from Telegram now having E2E encryption by default, it also invents its own weird and unverified encryption instead of using a more peer-reviewed and robust method. Signal's encryption tech has some strong guarantees and advanced the state-of-the-art when it first appeared.

Worth noting that Matrix's crypto is also based on Signal's algorithm (but extended to support efficient encryption in rooms with a large number of participants).

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Re:Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends a... by sundarurfriend on Monday January 11, 2021 @02:32AM (#25725848)
> Apart from Telegram now having E2E encryption by default, it also invents its own weird and unverified encryption

I was confused since the tone of that sentence sounded weird (Apart from <positive>, it also <negative>), but I think it's a typo - I believe you meant to type "Apart from Telegram not having E2E encryption by default"?

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Re:Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends a... by feanaro on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:55AM (#25726401)
You're right. :/ Too late to edit now.
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Re:Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends a... by BelenusMordred on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:16AM (#25726148)
For the most part I think the fears over their crypto is overblown. But their behaviour over the years and not being secure by default means people shouldn't be using it just on principal.

Signal's double ratchet algorithm is easily the gold standard for now and there's little reason for anyone pushing a E2EE privacy narrative to not be using it.

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Re:Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends a... by dunefox on Monday January 11, 2021 @05:39AM (#25727127)
It's sad that Signal has a horrible Desktop Client and isn't much to look at because the security and privacy features are good, if you disregard the forced cell phone number.
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