BLM’s mission is to strengthen democracy and justice with the unfortunate side effect of the fringe propagating violence. The core and leadership would rather the violence and property damage wasn’t taking place.
Trump is an authoritarian who is trying to subvert democracy, and his supporters consider violence to not only be acceptable but to be a necessary virtue.
If it were possible to remove disinformation, violence, and property destruction from each movement, BLM would still have an important message, while on the MAGA side I’m not sure what values would remain. What’s the coherent message beyond spite toward the left?
The protestors mission was to prevent the subversion of democracy.
I don't think using one side being mistaken about whether their actions help with their mission as a justification for surpression is fair.
As for the general MAGA message? I'm not red tribe and have no friends who are so take what I say with a grain of salt:
* The USA has gotten worse.
* Immigration is bad and one of the reasons for the USA decline.
* Our (Red tribe) economic interests are not being defended or advanced.
* Red tribe social norms and interests are not being advanced or defended by the centres of power. E.g. values related to family.
* Acceptance and promotion of alternative sexual expressions is bad for the world.
* Globalism is bad.
I agree and like Black Lives Matter because they have a valid point to make, and while it's unfortunate that there are fringe elements causing property damage and there have been instances of violence, that's not central to their mission and most people I know who support Black Lives Matter are against violence and property damage.
I dislike Trump because he's corrupt, incompetent, racist, sexist, a sociopath, and an authoritarian. I feel like it's a valid position to be against those things. However, any politician on any end of the political spectrum can be all those things, so setting those aside, let's look at his actual policies: the only one I can think of is isolationism.
I mean I'm mostly just repeating myself. Feel free to make a counterargument.
I take it "punch a Nazi" wasn't popular in your circle then?
Btw: I think Trump is an incomptent, a populist and a con man. But he's no more racist and sexist than the average american.
Jeez, I hope that's not true.
The BLM leaders were saying "we are marching/gathering to protest police brutality". However things got out of hand. Violence was not their intent. See also the false flag operations against BLM:
* https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-fake-antifa-acount-whit...
The folks on Parler are saying "we need to hang the traitor Pence". And this has been going on for months:
> “Will you and several hundred more go with me to DC and fight our way into the Congress and arrest every Democrat who has participated in the coup?” Holland posted on Friday. “We may have to shoot and kill many of the Communist BLM and ANTIFA Democrat foot soldiers to accomplish this!!!”
* https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/11/11/cops-n11.html
> One of Lang Holland’s posts reflected Donald Trump’s baseless allegations that the presidential election he lost to Joe Biden was stolen, and said: “Death to all Marxist Democrats.”
> Holland, who led the police department in Marshall, Arkansas, also wrote “take no prisoners” and “leave no survivors”.
* https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/09/local-arkans...
> In a popular thread referencing a Trump tweet promoting the debunked conspiracy theory of election fraud, one user asked, "what if Congress ignores the evidence?"
> "Storm the Capitol," was a popular reply.
> Five days later, on January 6, as pro-Trump militia proceeded to do exactly that, the mood on thedonald.win switched to jubilation and outright defiance of police, with thousands joining "watching party" message threads.
> "This is what Trump told us to do!" a top post in one of these threads read.
* https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-01-08/us-capitol-st...
Do you see the difference?
If I could be satisfied that he was the leader then I can acknowledge that as an important difference.