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Re:Will the US experience a violent upheaval in 2020? (2012) by iguy on Sunday January 10, 2021 @06:57AM (#25713821)
These examples are of technical education. German rocket scientists, and British blast-furnace wizards (to France). These things are important of course but seem orthogonal to political institutional memory.

Scholars deeply steeped in Bismark's thoughts & mistakes, or in English constitutional law, didn't make these jumps.

Re:Will the US experience a violent upheaval in 2020? (2012) by paganel on Sunday January 10, 2021 @07:17AM (#25713950)
> or in English constitutional law

Carl Schmitt did in fact made the jump, and he's one of the most read constitutional law writers in the last century. Not sure if Max Weber would have done the same, most probably not (he was really versed in English constitutional law, his "Economy and Society" has lots of quotes to Maitland's "History of English Law"), but he didn't strike me as a fervent supporter of democracy rights either.

And there was also the definite jump made by Heidegger, not exactly a legal scholar but a very well-read person nonetheless (and a mentor to Hannah Arendt, among others).

Re:Will the US experience a violent upheaval in 2020? (2012) by iguy on Sunday January 10, 2021 @05:18PM (#25720689)
These don't seem like the sort of jumps I had in mind. I meant the wholesale import of a school of knowledge to a new place. As happened for instance with the arrival of many modern sciences in the US; lots of fields where everybody's family tree goes back to germany.

The germans you mention were certainly well-informed about foreign traditions, but their knowledge didn't create a living continuation of these traditions where they ended up.

(The context is, since it's been a few hours, was a claim that education was a way to circumvent this 50-year institutional forgetting, which I took to mean national institutions. And the counter-claim is that many places have good education and terrible institutions, why haven't they imported this ersatz institutional memory? If it works for local preservation, why doesn't it work for international transplanting? And I don't completely know, but the successful international knowledge grafts seem to be technical subjects. )

Re:Will the US experience a violent upheaval in 2020? (2012) by Der_Einzige on Sunday January 10, 2021 @03:59PM (#25719720)
Not just mentor, he was her boyfriend!!!

And an ironic situation, given his nazi ties and her jewishness...