> I don't think you're refuting me

I wasn’t trying to refute your point. Only offering a recent historical perspective where an actual terrorist organization was considered as... not that. Where the perspective is set by who is in charge.

>It's a far stretch to even imply the highly limited interactions between Ayers and Obama were in some way responsible for his rise to the presidency

I also didn’t imply that at all.

Perhaps you are just too used to arguing with people on the internet?