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Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by amluto on Saturday January 09, 2021 @04:58PM (#25705280)
Try to steer people to the media outlets that are still mostly balanced? NPR comes to mind. Or encourage people to read a leftish and a rightish source? And encourage people to think for themselves?

It would also be nice, albeit maybe very hard, to encourage even the less balanced media to try to speak to everyone and to write critically and honestly. For example, I personally lean left, but I find the New York Times to be increasingly vapid and unthinking.

In general, if you’re reading news (or Twitter!) just to find people who agree with you, you’re doing it wrong. This is true regardless of political party.

Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by adrr on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:21PM (#25705545)
Have you talked to these people? My mother in law calls all media “fake news”. She’s gets all her information from YouTube. She’ll sit for hours watching the shows each day. There is no convincing her. Literally believes the other should be shot. Not amount of evidence will change her mind. She’s catholic even the pope couldn’t change her beliefs.
Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by jimbokun on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:00PM (#25705297)
NPR does a good job of presenting the basic facts in their news segments, but their commentary, editorial, and human interest programming is 100% progressive.
Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by loopz on Saturday January 09, 2021 @06:12PM (#25706080)
Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by jimbokun on Sunday January 10, 2021 @08:34AM (#25714498)
Progressive is just the label they choose to use for themselves, so it's polite to use that same label when addressing or describing them.

It doesn't really mean that automatically makes their views or policies inherently better than those who disagree with them. It's important to analyze things people say and and investigate their claims for yourself, and not just tribally agree with them on everything they say just because they use an adjective that sounds nice to describe themselves.

Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by vladTheInhaler on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:26PM (#25705592)
Can you give me an example of a story you believe is overtly "progressive"?
Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by MontyCarloHall on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:57PM (#25705936)
How about the story that gave serious airtime to the book “In Defense of Looting” [0], which as the title implies, wholeheartedly condoned the looting and rioting that occurred during the summer protests.

[0] https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178...

Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by vladTheInhaler on Saturday January 09, 2021 @09:42PM (#25708395)
First I would point out that the article start with:

"This story was updated on Sept. 1, 2020. The original version of this story, which is an interview with an author who holds strong political views and ideas, did not provide readers enough context for them to fully assess some of the controversial opinions discussed."

So they are clearly cognizant of the fact that the content is very controversial. I think it's a sensitive and important subject, and one that doesn't really get addressed in a serious, scholarly way. In some ways, it's a perfect example of the kind of heterodox research that conservatives have advocated for in universities and public forums. And it is the job of the media to try to communicate what ideas are out there.

Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by jimbokun on Sunday January 10, 2021 @08:37AM (#25714512)
Do you have any examples of similar stories with a controversially conservative slant they have covered?

Nothing you're saying disputes that, editorially, they have a strong progressive bent.

Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by netsharc on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:19PM (#25705515)
I've got someone, who when I sent her links to The Guardian or other MSM sites, said "They're paid off by Rockerfellers and Rotschilds to report made up stories". Snopes? She sent me a link to a blog that mentioned some Snopes scandal, as if saying Snoopes can't be trusted 100% (and yeah sadly there was a scandal involving the founders of Snopes).

Of course she has her cheap-o fake-news Wordpress sites as her "sources" about her "knowledge", and she's convinced they're telling the truth. I end up seeing the equivalance, why do I believe the network of MSM sites are telling the truth when she can believe the same thing of the network of fake-news sites? One thing is, MSM sites fact-check each other, but a lot of things she thinks are fake news aren't being "fact-checked" by MSM...

A funny thing though, she's a "Bill Gates wants to kill Africans through vaccinations", and she said "Search for this theory, but don't use Google, they're paid off by big pharma, use Duck Duck Go.". Then I had to tell her, "You do know Duck Duck Go uses results from Bing... which is owned by Microsoft?" (I think she knows the BG/Microsoft connection).

Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by im3w1l on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:28PM (#25705608)
It's kind of interesting. "Billionaire wants to kill black people" sounds like a leftwing conspiracy. I wonder why rightwingers are the ones believing that one. Just a general tendency to believe in conspiracy theories?
Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by ansible on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:01PM (#25705310)
While you may believe that NPR is mostly balanced, I assure you that one side does not. They view it with derision, and believe it is the epitome of bias. And they will view just about any media source not aligning with their view similarly.
Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by matwood on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:01PM (#25705316)
> NPR comes to mind.

Haha, you realize that the right considers NPR Marxist propaganda?

Re:Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trendin... by ModernMech on Saturday January 09, 2021 @06:51PM (#25706474)
And actual Marxists find NPR a little to liberal for their taste.