The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance

Re:The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance by zepto on Saturday January 09, 2021 @02:27PM (#25703686)

I agree - it doesn’t have some generally accepted meaning.

Some people seem to mean ‘no police at all’ and some seem to mean ‘don’t task the police with trivial stuff’.

But why then would the right assume it means the former?

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Re:The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance by leetcrew on Saturday January 09, 2021 @03:21PM (#25704298)

well for one thing, the conservative slogan "defund planned parenthood" really does mean (AFAIK) remove all ways planned parenthood could possibly get a dollar from the government. it's not inconsistent to interpret "defund the police" the same way.

but more generally, it's inevitable that the opposing side will interpret a vague slogan in the most negative and scary light possible. I suspect this is often by design, ie motte and bailey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

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Re:The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance by pseudalopex on Saturday January 09, 2021 @06:27PM (#25706236)

Conservatives complained about Obama defunding the military too. They knew he didn't disband it.

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