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Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by rasengan on Friday January 08, 2021 @11:03PM (#25696730)
Dear EFF,

Is this seriously your official position? That far from taking a hardline stance against censorship, you're instead in agreement and commend this coordinated censorship and slippery slope?

If this is the case, you are not the EFF that I or the internet know or loved.

This is not about whether or not we like Donald Trump or anything. This is about the fact that social media platforms just censored the President of the United States of America for no other reason than their own political views.

We saw this happen before with the stasi.

Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by klmadfejno on Saturday January 09, 2021 @08:58PM (#25707817)
> This is about the fact that social media platforms just censored the President of the United States of America for no other reason than their own political views.

Pretty sure it's because they think his usage of his platform contributed to a violent insurrection on the US capitol building that killed 5 people and, had it not been managed, likely included assaults on US representatives.

Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by hinkley on Saturday January 09, 2021 @10:34PM (#25709287)
But they said, in not so many words, that if the platforms are going to hold normal users to a standard, they should hold public figures to an equal (or IMO, greater) standard instead of letting them have more privileges. I don’t really see a problem with that, except for how deadpan the delivery is.

They don’t because pandering pays the bills. But if pandering doesn’t bother you, there are more lucrative forms and you can just do away with the pretense and get to the pandering.

Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by klmadfejno on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:56PM (#25732851)
You seem to be taking the stance that they're a left leaning organization, but criticizing them for framing their point of view in politically neutral terms.

What if the apparent political leanings of their thinking is a second order effect of the EFF's goal and not the root cause?

Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by kadoban on Saturday January 09, 2021 @01:33AM (#25698011)
Did their political views change over the last day or so? Did the President's? No? Then perhaps you should consider that there may be other possible reasons that they have banned these accounts.
Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by x86_64Ubuntu on Friday January 08, 2021 @11:30PM (#25697006)
Are you really comparing the actions of East German secret police with being banned from social media? This is ridiculous.
Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by casefields on Saturday January 09, 2021 @12:00AM (#25697280)
The left used to defend free speech in the public square. Such as when neo-nazis marched in Skokie where many Jewish Holocaust survivors lived: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_Am...

There's nothing wrong with the opinion of being against free speech, it's just quite sad how far we've fallen. Only allowing the speech you agree with is not free speech.

Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by x86_64Ubuntu on Saturday January 09, 2021 @12:42AM (#25697659)
Free Speech has to do with the government hauling you off for saying something, it has nothing to do with being able to incite riots, or convey viewpoints of fascism on the property of a 3rd party.
Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by hinkley on Saturday January 09, 2021 @10:25PM (#25709131)
Do you understand the difference between free speech and conspiracy? Between opinions and inciting?

If not these are all just words you found that when strung together elicit an emotional response from yourself, and from others. A strong reaction doesn’t mean something is true, or makes sense. It just means your monkey brain reacted to it. Wisdom is separating the two.

Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by leshokunin on Saturday January 09, 2021 @10:17PM (#25709002)
I can't tell if you're spreading misinformation on purpose. You're referring to the American Nazi party as "the left".

From your link: "his Neo-Nazi group, the NSPA, would regularly hold demonstrations in Marquette Park".

Firstly: you're mislabeling the radical right wing. Secondly: they they're right wing goes against your point.

Are you confused because "national socialist" (which is what nazi stands for) has the word socialist?

Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by maxlybbert on Saturday January 09, 2021 @10:55PM (#25709624)
The example was that the American Nazi Party wanted to march through a neighborhood with several Holocaust survivors. Many non-Nazis, including groups like the ACLU, defended the Nazis’ right to hold the march.
Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by leshokunin on Sunday January 10, 2021 @05:40AM (#25713260)
Thanks for the clarification.
Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by CurtHagenlocher on Friday January 08, 2021 @11:08PM (#25696783)
Well, their political views and his attempt to overthrow a democratically-elected government by inciting a mob to storm the Capitol building.
Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by _hyrb on Saturday January 09, 2021 @10:14PM (#25708952)
> This is about the fact that social media platforms just censored the President of the United States of America for no other reason than their own political views.

First they came for the most powerful person on the planet, and I said nothing...

Re:EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block Preside... by metabagel on Saturday January 09, 2021 @10:50PM (#25709551)
Trump’s “political views” include inciting violence to overturn the election.