Re:Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
by darkerside on Friday January 08, 2021 @10:53PM
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He told people to march on the Capitol and stop the steal. If a mob boss tells his lackeys to "take care of it", he is guilty of murder when they kill him. Judgement cones into play because people are not robots, and people in authority have a responsibility to make their orders clear.
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Re:Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
by nindalf on Saturday January 09, 2021 @12:08AM
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Mob boss: no I meant for them to take him out for a spa day, not kill him!
Trump is usually careful to talk like a mob boss. He never explicitly asks for things. He implies, leaving enough gap for plausible deniability. But to this mob he was very clear - come to DC on the 6th, go to the Capitol, target Republican lawmakers who were “weak”, ie, not currently stopping the steal.
Fuck Trump and fuck everyone in this thread trying to pretend like the mob never got any directions from him.
Re:Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
by southeastern on Saturday January 09, 2021 @02:33AM
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The classic example is Charles Manson; he didn't kill anyone but he made it happen. Trump's case is certainly a little more abstract because he's smart enough to use ambiguous language.. But it really doesn't strain the imagination to understand how the principle is similar