Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store
by nec4b on Friday January 08, 2021 @07:59PM
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>>* a claim that if a thief steals all of your stuff, you "starve" -- please give an example of one person who "starved" because BLM looters stole their stuff
You are 100% sure that nobody who lost a job because his place of work was destroyed in riots is not starving? Not everybody is so privileged to have enough savings to support himself after loosing a job.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store
by spoonjim on Friday January 08, 2021 @08:05PM
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Of course I'm not 100% sure of that, but there is a long sequence of events between smashing a window and getting to that outcome, unlike bashing a guy's face in with a crowbar where the consequence is guaranteed within milliseconds. The two acts are not equal and attempts to equate them are either idiotic or in bad faith.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store
by nec4b on Friday January 08, 2021 @08:32PM
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Once upon a time in Germany there was a special night, it was called "Crystal Night"[1]. It got it's name because of all the glass from the smashed windows lying on the ground. There were some people arguing that it was violence, but some said that those people were either idiotic or arguing in bad faith.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store
by jakelazaroff on Friday January 08, 2021 @09:06PM
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Kristallnacht was a pogrom in which people specifically targeted Jews with the full backing of the state.
Surely the more apt analogy is the systemic violence our state inflicts on Black people, rather than the protests that arose in response to it.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store
by nec4b on Saturday January 09, 2021 @03:48AM
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No, mask wearing people (supported by a large part of the political elite) destroying property of a specific social-economic class is the more apt analogy today in the USA.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store
by jakelazaroff on Saturday January 09, 2021 @08:46AM
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Those people were met with state violence, so no it’s not.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store
by jbboehr on Saturday January 09, 2021 @04:13PM
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Ever heard the term "anarcho-tyranny" ?
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store
by kemayo on Friday January 08, 2021 @09:03PM
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I'd have gone with the hundreds of Jews murdered that night and subsequent tens of thousands sent to concentration camps in the aftermath as the important violence there, honestly.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store
by nec4b on Saturday January 09, 2021 @01:21PM
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You are right, some people just fail to see that the broken windows were just the beginning and what followed was even more vile. The mental gymnastics some people do to downplay violence only because it might look bad for their side is astonishing. The value of a human life for them is nothing more than a sacrificial pawn on their ideological chessboard.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store
by cycrutchfield on Friday January 08, 2021 @09:37PM
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No, but think of the property that was destroyed!
* saying that economic circumstances are "oppressive," then trying to draw this to "violence"
* a claim that if a thief steals all of your stuff, you "starve" -- please give an example of one person who "starved" because BLM looters stole their stuff
* implying that being in a situation where you are "starving" is the same as actually being violently attacked, i.e. shot, stabbed, bludgeoned, etc.