Re:Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
by rattlesnakedave on Friday January 08, 2021 @07:23PM
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If you see their radicalization as the problem instead of a symptom you’re missing the plot.
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Re:Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
by notabee on Friday January 08, 2021 @09:36PM
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Severe enough "symptoms" can turn into comorbidities and are diseases unto themselves. Sometimes worse that the initial disease. If you get a rash from poison ivy, itching is a symptom. If you scratch all your flesh off because it itches and you're a stubborn idiot that won't go get treatment from a doctor, and then that exposed flesh gets a nasty infection that eats your limb, well then the symptom has now advanced into a disease worse than the initial cause.
Let's say in this metaphor the doctor stands for maybe seeking therapy for paranoia and oppositional defiant disorder, or something like that. These people are not without agency in their own radicalization, though we could argue that society really doesn't help matters when it comes to mental health or pernicious algorithms that send people down conspiracy holes.
Re:Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
by sdenton4 on Friday January 08, 2021 @07:40PM
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Well, I'll just be over here renegotiating the Treaty of Versailles to deal with those underlying causes. France can wait...
Re:Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
by SpicyLemonZest on Friday January 08, 2021 @07:30PM
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I see it as a symptom, but the underlying problems are complex and can't be resolved over the next 2 weeks. So we need a stopgap solution to prevent the violent attack many of them have promised for the Inauguration.
Re:Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
by odessacubbage on Saturday January 09, 2021 @06:44AM
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the stopgap was the supreme court and they've chosen to be derelict in their duties. these people just want their case to be heard. in absence of doing so, the narrative around the election is being entirely defined to them by lin wood. this situation is a chinese fingertrap, force will only make it worse.
Re:Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
by SpicyLemonZest on Saturday January 09, 2021 @11:15AM
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The people you're hearing this from just aren't being honest with you. Their case was heard dozens of times in courts across all the disputed states. The idea that the Supreme Court specifically needs to weigh in was created only after those losses, as a deliberately impossible standard to keep people mad; everyone familiar with the legal system was saying from the start that the Supreme Court wouldn't rule on the merits of this case.