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Re:DOJ fines Boeing over $2.5B, charges it with fraud conspi... by m1sta_ on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:19PM (#25679594)
Fines like this typically punish shareholders and lower level employees (via restructuring in response to a need to find budget for the fine).
Re:DOJ fines Boeing over $2.5B, charges it with fraud conspi... by dragonwriter on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:25PM (#25679633)
> Fines like this typically punish shareholders

Good.

That should motivate shareholders to assure that they can hold management of firms they invest in accountable.

> and lower level employees

Which is regrettable, but I’m not sure how any form of corporate sanction could avoid that.

Re:DOJ fines Boeing over $2.5B, charges it with fraud conspi... by entangledqubit on Thursday January 07, 2021 @08:04PM (#25680020)
You could have the fines be "heavily" pulled out of compensation packages for the higher ups who actually have the power to change the organization... but then they'd probably just leave and screw up some other place?

Do boards generally try to claw back compensation in these sorts of situations? (Just as they have been doing in some of the recent cases involving financial shenanigans.)

Re:DOJ fines Boeing over $2.5B, charges it with fraud conspi... by deepsun on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:28PM (#25679655)
Boeing belongs to the USA, so US citizens will take the punishment then. Am I right?
Re:DOJ fines Boeing over $2.5B, charges it with fraud conspi... by blendergeek on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:47PM (#25679824)
Boeing is a publicly traded company based in the USA. That is different from being owned by the USA. Amtrak (which provided passenger rail service in the USA) is owned by the US Federal Government. Boeing on the other hand is owned by a multitude of individuals like you and me and probably a good number hedgefunds.
Re:DOJ fines Boeing over $2.5B, charges it with fraud conspi... by m463 on Friday January 08, 2021 @12:20AM (#25681777)
Meanwhile, Airbus... I've always heard the French Government supports it, but it's hard to see exactly how.

and something interesting I just noticed:

"In 2015, Airbus Group said it was establishing an R&D center and venture capital fund in Silicon Valley."