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Re:Apple relases open source modules of Big Sur by Wowfunhappy on Thursday January 07, 2021 @03:33PM (#25677025)
Apple isn't actually obligated to release any of this code. It's licensed under BSD-like terms.

Big Sur came out several months ago, so if this release contained GPL code Apple would potentially be in trouble. (But it doesn't, so they're not.)

Re:Apple relases open source modules of Big Sur by glandium on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:21AM (#25682422)
It did come with bash, which is GPL. (sure, zsh is now the default, but bash is there too)
Re:Apple relases open source modules of Big Sur by JohnTheNerd1 on Friday January 08, 2021 @08:13AM (#25684330)
macOS actually comes with Bash 3.2, which is from 2007. it is the last version released before they switched to GPL. this is actually why they switched to zsh.
Re:Apple relases open source modules of Big Sur by glandium on Friday January 08, 2021 @04:21PM (#25690677)
Well, the fact is, the version available on opensource.apple.com in macOS 11.0.1 is 123.40.1 and the version in 10.15.6 is 118.40.2... and they slightly differ.

Interestingly, the new version removed the dependency on the unavailable rootless.h header, making it (probably) buildable out of the box, now.

Re:Apple relases open source modules of Big Sur by Wowfunhappy on Friday January 08, 2021 @04:34PM (#25690808)
I would assume the version difference is from Apple updating it internally. They don't run into GPL issues unless they pull from newer upstream Bash code.
Re:Apple relases open source modules of Big Sur by Wowfunhappy on Friday January 08, 2021 @10:07AM (#25685377)
^ We all assume that's why, it should perhaps be said. Although I think the circumstantial evidence is pretty strong. :)
Re:Apple relases open source modules of Big Sur by richardwhiuk on Thursday January 07, 2021 @04:14PM (#25677566)
Not really - they are obligated to provide it on request, and allowed to take a reasonable time to do so. If someone requested it, and they later uploaded it here, they'd be fine.
Re:Apple relases open source modules of Big Sur by ubercow13 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @04:28PM (#25677767)
In what way does the BSD license obligate that?
Re:Apple relases open source modules of Big Sur by rootusrootus on Thursday January 07, 2021 @05:17PM (#25678406)
I read that comment as saying that GPL wouldn't require simultaneous release, but would simply obligate them to release on request.

But I may also be misreading it.

Re:Apple relases open source modules of Big Sur by richardwhiuk on Monday January 11, 2021 @05:32AM (#25727069)
Yes, I was referring to the GPL, not BSD licensed software.