Re:M1 Macs cannot support dual Extended displays through the...
by real-dino on Thursday January 07, 2021 @01:14PM
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It's a better solution IMHO. A cooling system does nothing to increase battery life. Otherwise you have a creeping race that leads you ever closer to 'fake-desktop' laptops.
I do watch Louis Rossmann about Macs, and how terribly they are designed, but this is universal across many devices.
I had so many issues getting low latency audio to work on my 2 year old XPS, I just plain replaced it with a 5 year old mac and had better performance and stability out of the box.
No company is perfect, but Apple does get consistently close. I'm glad they don't focus on the specs and focus on experience. Who really needs a 4k screen on a laptop?
Re:M1 Macs cannot support dual Extended displays through the...
by ogre_codes on Thursday January 07, 2021 @01:19PM
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> They are good for gaming when manufacturers use a good cooling system. Which is, almost never.
Ok, this is more or less what I thought.
This does seem solvable, but also seems like the sort of thing the bean counters would cut early.
From what I recall, pre-Dell Alienware did a decent job at it.
HP, Dell/Alienware, Lenovo, all of them have had overheating CPUs for over a decade. GPUs are fine half the time, surprisingly.
Their testing is garbage, what they call normal use seems to be completely different from what power users call normal use. And I'm talking about "workstations", not cheap consumer laptops.
Oh, but the design constraints, you'll say. OK, that's forgivable for Ultrabooks/thin-and-light laptops. Not workstations. And before the thinness fad, they were still overheating. And not because of design constraints.
As an example, I'll bring the Elitebook 8760/8770w/ZBook 17 G1/Zbook 17 G2 series, all of which have the same internal design and layout.
All were overheating after a while, due to thermal paste going bad (and being shit from the factory, but I digress).
With the ZBook G2 it got very, very bad. Those Haswell chips with FIVR were mini nuclear reactors. HP realized they weren't "just overheating", but "extremely overheating".
Their solution? The same heatsink with an extra heatpipe. Just like that, poof, problem solved. One extra heatpipe!
That can't cost more than $2 in the factory. I don't know any buyer who wouldn't have paid an extra $5-10 to have a proper working $4000 workstation.
Whoever is saving money on copper and screws in these companies needs to be fired and banned from ever working in companies making hardware.
I'm not even going to talk about Apple, everyone knows their stuff has a ton of problems. But they're selling people on design and software, not quality engineering.
And they actually solved the heat problems by going in the opposite direction with the M1 (ultra low power usage while maintaining performance instead of a good cooling system).