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Re:Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump by makomk on Thursday January 07, 2021 @11:29AM (#25673104)
Right now, FB are getting to have their cake and eat it - Section 230 gives them almost complete immunity from how they use their "voice" on the supposed basis that it's supposedly their users' speech and not theirs, including getting to decide which political violence to support, but they also get full freedom to decide which not-their-speech gets heard and by whom based on their own whims. Ordinary humans who aren't multi-billion-dollar corporations controlling one of the main methods of communication do not have this level of free speech rights.
Re:Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump by dkjaudyeqooe on Thursday January 07, 2021 @11:36AM (#25673196)
Of course you can have this level of free speech rights, just start a website with a comments section and you can have the same awesome power.
Re:Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump by tomp on Thursday January 07, 2021 @11:45AM (#25673352)
Unapproved speech will be censored somehow, if necessary at the DNS / internet provider / Cloudflare level. Case in point: Daily Stormer.
Re:Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump by dkjaudyeqooe on Thursday January 07, 2021 @11:52AM (#25673480)
So? That's how the society works: its moral values are reflected by the actions of those who participate in it. Most people find the Daily Stormer abhorrent so they refuse to provide services to it. It's actually free speech in action since all those people are expressing their view of DS.

See, free speech works!

Re:Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump by ThrowawayR2 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @12:58PM (#25674631)
> "That's how the society works: its moral values are reflected by the actions of those who participate in it."

The gaping flaw in the "social norms" argument is that slavery, women as second class citizens, religious intolerance, etc. used to be a social norms as well, so in those eras one has to suspect the parent poster would be arguing in favor of those as well. It is basically a conservative viewpoint saying that what society believes to be moral at the present time will always be moral, so hearing it parroted by people claiming to be aligned with the left is just mind-bending.

For the record I am a (old-school) liberal.