Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours
by clairity on Thursday January 07, 2021 @10:52AM
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yes, it's double-talk, but...
> "Even if he didn't think it, as what he thinks shouldn't matter..."
no, that's called lying, and we don't want presidents (or any person with even a modicum of power) doing that, even if we disagree (sometimes vehemently) with what he says. we have checks and balances on what the president can do, which is what matters. it would be great if trump were gracious, but he's not, and the people have (admittedly narrowly) spoken against him. our system has actually shown that it can tolerate a presidency like his intact.
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours
by atleta on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:00PM
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I'm not really sure what you are arguing against. I just pondered the case what if he's intent wasn't to continue fuelling the unrest and concluded that even then he can still be blamed.
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours
by clairity on Sunday January 10, 2021 @10:15AM
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i'm arguing against advocating lying, which is what saying one thing while believing another is. it's preferring a truthful, if self-serving and vindictive, trump over a lying, self-serving and vindictive trump.
Even if he didn't think it, as what he thinks shouldn't matter unless he wants the stirrup to continue. He's supposed to be a politician, or even just a grown up person after all, not a child who cannot control himself.
Living in Hungary, living through this very same shit for 10, or maybe 14 years now, I've watched the whole Trump story in horror, but also thinking most of the time: yeah, this is kind of expected. This double talk thing is something our PM (Viktor Orban) does a lot of time. So yeah, Trump didn't want to calm these guys down, or to be more objective, that's not what he DID (even if we believe he's totally childish and dumb).