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Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by prepend on Thursday January 07, 2021 @06:31AM (#25669846)
> And they stated they had two choices, barricade the capitol and prevent entry, or evacuate the people inside.

This seems really strange to me. So the capitol police isn't staffed and doesn’t plan for a situation where they need to do both of these things?

What struck me the most is that the rioters seem like just a few hundred/thousand. Definitely scary but should have been able to be controlled by law enforcement. It wasn’t a million people or a zombie horde.

Their web site [0] says they have 2,300 officers and staff. So even if only half are officers it seems like 1,150 armed, trained capitol police should be able to control a mob of this size.

Certainly rioters trying to stage a coup is a rare event but seems like something that the capitol police should have contingency plans for.

Them saying that they had to choose between evacuating lawmakers and protecting the building seems like they need a lot of help planning.

[0] https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/uscp-fast-facts

Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by hef19898 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:28AM (#25670256)
Crowd control is very, very tricky. What would these armed police officers do, in your opinion? Shoot everyone? Arguably not. So what other options do they have? Without riot gear, that very difficult, and even with riot gear, the insurgents were partially armed. So yeah, evacuate and wait for superior numbers to show up was the smarter decision once things already did go south. Now follow it up with aggressive prosecution of those i taking selfies in senator offices would be a good thing, too.
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by hutzlibu on Thursday January 07, 2021 @02:19PM (#25675853)
"Without riot gear, that very difficult"

Then there would be the question, of why there was no riot gear, when riots or riot-like situation could be expected. And since this was a planned event - and protestors openly planned to storm it - then maybe there should have been some better preparation?

And crowd control is indeed tricky, but it is still standard procedure for police.

You have fences.

You have lines of strong policemen with shields and tonfa.

You have tear gas.

Watercannon.

Beanbag.

Taser.

And ultimately, if rioters are indeed shooting or preparing to do so: there are guns with the police, too.

Many others brought the point: there probably would have been rivers of blood, if the black life matters movement, would have tried to storm the capitol.

Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by prepend on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:40AM (#25670354)
I would expect them to have a plan for crowd control. How do other security organizations handle this? I would expect they do have an armory with riot gear and crowd control equipment.

That’s what I mean about odd that they don’t have a plan for this. I live near a top 50 city and the local police has crowd control equipment. Seems like the National capitol police would have some capability for this.

Certainly not shooting everyone.