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Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by antris on Thursday January 07, 2021 @06:00AM (#25669651)
>A bunch of idiots roaming the capitol building isn't a threat per se, shameful and sad yes, but not one that should've been met with violent force from a small number of capitol police at the expense of (and risk of not) evacuating the people inside.

Of course, if the mob were leftists or had any significant amount of minorities mixed in, there would have been rivers of blood outside the Capitol.

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Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by IfOnlyYouKnew on Thursday January 07, 2021 @08:08AM (#25670553)
Here's 1000 examples of police violence as caught on video in 2020: https://bigthink.com/politics-current-affairs/police-brutali...

In Austin, 16-year-old Edwin Ayala attended a protest. He stood alone on a grassy hill, about a dozen yards away from police and other protestors. As Ayala stood still, an officer on the street raised his gun and shot a bean-bag bullet at the boy's head. Ayala collapsed instantly.

Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by leereeves on Thursday January 07, 2021 @10:50AM (#25672350)
That list is just a list of incidents of police violence, not protest-related, many from before 2020, and some not even in the US.

I'm not disputing whether American police are violent; we have another example from yesterday: an unarmed woman killed by police.

I'm disputing the claim that the response would have been more aggressive at a leftist protest. Thousands of National Guard troops, in addition to police in riot gear, were dispersed to clear the Capitol. They did so. Less violence was required to do so, because the protestors complied.

Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by dragonwriter on Thursday January 07, 2021 @10:58AM (#25672462)
> Thousands of National Guard troops, in addition to police in riot gear, were dispersed to clear the Capitol.

Were it a left wing protest, the National Guard would not have been delayed by the federal executive until after the insurrectionists had spent their energy and either failed to achieve their violent goals because the targets had escaped immediate threat, and would hace acted violently to disperse the crowd earlier, and the right-wing counter-protestors that would have been present (left-wing counter-protestors were specifically told to avoid this event by major left-leaning groups because of the risk of violence) would have been permitted by law enforcement to freely act violently against the same group targeted by LE. We know all that, because we've seen it time and again over the last year, across the US, including specifically in D.C.

Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by antris on Thursday January 07, 2021 @01:51PM (#25675413)
>Were it a left wing protest, the National Guard would not have been delayed by the federal executive

If it were a left wing or minority advocate protest, the response would have been the same as with BLM protests:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/07/us/police-response-black-...

The double standard is striking.

Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by antris on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:36AM (#25670317)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/06/08/14-days...

19 dead in 2 weeks, without any aggression even close to what happened yesterday. It's obvious that the death toll would be higher if BLM protestors were as aggressive as the Trump protestors yesterday.

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Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by antris on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:59AM (#25670471)
>Including the violence by civilians (whether we call them protestors or not), the leftist protests did lead to a lot more bloodshed. I misunderstood and thought you were talking solely about the police.

I was. Most of the victims during the protests were black. You cherry picked quotes from the article to support your views.

The reality is that a peaceful BLM protest was dispersed with greater violence so that the president can pose across the street with a bible, than a mob attacking and storming the Capitol.

Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by leereeves on Friday January 08, 2021 @08:03PM (#25694024)
If you were only talking about people killed by police, why did you provide a list of 19 people, at least 17 of whom weren't killed by police?
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by wolco3 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @08:20AM (#25670661)
Most of the deaths occurred outside of the capital. Many were caused by blm protester attacking another.
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by Taurenking on Saturday January 09, 2021 @02:51PM (#25704002)
Or a blm protestor attacking a citizen trying to protect their livelihood. But most people will probably turn a blind eye because it doesn't fit the narrative (blm riots = peaceful protests, capitol riots = domestic terrorism)

Makes me chuckle that the result of this + the deplatforming of most of the opposition will only result in even more extremism and separation in the US.

I guess you reap what you sow

Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by wolco3 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @08:19AM (#25670645)
You think all protestors are the same?

The level of violence at blm protests were a lot higher for a lot longer in a lot more places. The age groups were opposite. The weapons usage by protestors were much higher and the trepassing on private property didn't exist here. Besides by nightfall the protest was done blm protests turned violent at night.

Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by jboog on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:17AM (#25670165)
Literally none of this is in any way comparable to storming the nation's capitol building to overthrow the results of an election.
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by leereeves on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:22AM (#25670208)
I'm not comparing the actions/crimes. I'm comparing the police response.

The comment I responded to, which claimed there would "rivers of blood" if leftists tried something like this. Where's the evidence of that?

And let's not forget that a protestor was killed by police yesterday.

Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by jboog on Thursday January 07, 2021 @12:01PM (#25673623)
"protestor" who was storming the capitol to overturn the election while elected officials were sheltering in the building.
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by PenguinCoder on Thursday January 07, 2021 @10:57AM (#25672446)
Not a protester; A rioter and an insurrectionist.
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by JoeAltmaier on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:21AM (#25670187)
Treason trumps public disorder. Obviously.

No, now the Republican party is up there with the Communist party or Anarchists, as a danger to America and democracy. Republican mobs paraded racist Confederate flags through federal buildings in a violent attempt to overthrow an election.

Thank god for brave Americans who stood up to harrassment and threw out baseless, evidence-free lawsuits trying to overthrow state electors. Hell, even the head of the Republican party has been recorded trying to strong-arm state election officials and fake the reporting of votes.

Give it up. The Republican party is clearly more corrupt and anti-American than any other organization you can name.

Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by wolco3 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @08:22AM (#25670677)
Hi Joe, do you have anything on topic? Perhaps reddit or twitter might be a better forum for your post.
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by JoeAltmaier on Thursday January 07, 2021 @08:30AM (#25670766)
Oh, I thought we were talking of Republicans invading a Federal building. If I'm off-topic I apologize. And I probably vectored off too much on that one. Letting off steam. Sorry!
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours by leereeves on Thursday January 07, 2021 @07:27AM (#25670246)
What discussion are you responding to?

How does your comment relate to whether "if the mob were leftists or had any significant amount of minorities mixed in, there would have been rivers of blood outside the Capitol."?