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Re:Why Clojure? (2018) by yw3410 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @04:05AM (#25668880)
Sure; but half the problems apply to other build tools too, not just sbt.

Take for example the point on syntax - is gradles groovy receiver syntax not just as esoteric as operator overloading?

Re:Why Clojure? (2018) by blandflakes on Thursday January 07, 2021 @09:27AM (#25671358)
Y does this too isn't really an interesting argument that X doing it is reasonable, I don't think (and my response to your initial question is entirely happy to lump Gradle in with SBT on its "understand-ability" demerits).
Re:Why Clojure? (2018) by yw3410 on Friday January 08, 2021 @01:02PM (#25687598)
Don't get me wrong, my laundry list with SBT is huge - that single point was an example; but I have other points for make, cargo, cabal, stack etc...

My question was what makes SBT uniquely bad when the topic of build tooling comes up that people immediately comment how terrible it is.

Re:Why Clojure? (2018) by joshlemer on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @04:49PM (#25754347)
For me, it's especially bad with the indirection, and the 3-dimensional cube of settings (I can never remember after all these years which one I want to set, the scope or the configuration or the task...). The complete mystery of how plugins affect the final build configuration.

I even went to a lot of effort to master SBT. I've read through the official docs numerous times, and Josh Suereth's Book https://www.manning.com/books/sbt-in-action, and I still feel like I don't grasp it very well. I'm just not smart enough for SBT.

Re:Why Clojure? (2018) by blandflakes on Friday January 08, 2021 @03:22PM (#25689919)
I think a lot of it is probably just that sbt feels as deep as learning entire programming languages sometimes and that is not something I want in a build tool.