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Re:WhatsApp gives users an ultimatum: Share data with Facebo... by _flux on Thursday January 07, 2021 @03:08AM (#25668538)
Well, matrix can to multi-device usage great and has E2E, so I don't see why that would be a hard requirement or even any kind of requirement.
Re:WhatsApp gives users an ultimatum: Share data with Facebo... by iforgotpassword on Thursday January 07, 2021 @03:43AM (#25668753)
Because at least according to the Threema devs, doing e2e multi device in a secure and anonymous way is not trivial.[1] Maybe matrix solved that problem, maybe they don't care...

[1] https://threema.ch/en/blog/posts/md-architectural-overview-i...

Re:WhatsApp gives users an ultimatum: Share data with Facebo... by _flux on Thursday January 07, 2021 @05:10AM (#25669330)
I guess it depends what you need and what is "secure and anonymous". Matrix probably leaks a ton of metadata.

In practice it works by each device having their own encryption key and then those devices are bound together with a cross signing key, so your peer can robustly identify all your devices at once (and the list of devices can change as long as they are bound by the cross signing key). Certainly the server is able to correlate device ids (and thus keys) and IPs.

The way threema does it sounds a bit how room encryption works in Matrix amond multiple clients.