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Re:Infosec implications of the US Capitol physical breach by baybal2 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @02:50AM (#25668407)
> There were exactly 2 (unarmed) "security guards" present who told my friend they obviously stood no chance if these people decided to charge.

No government stands a chance if an any much significant part of population raises against it. I'm not even saying a majority.

What we saw today in DC was not a big rally.

A big rally would look like this: https://i.tribune.com.pk/media/images/Khadim-Rizvi-funeral-2... and like that for a few more city blocks.

Or like this: https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/moscow1991/AP9103...

Or this: https://static.toiimg.com/img/67604038/Master.jpg

Learning living along with the radicals is a good alternative to having a war with them.

Re:Infosec implications of the US Capitol physical breach by buran77 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @04:17AM (#25668965)
> Learning living along with the radicals is a good alternative to having a war with them.

This is what most regimes and "leaders" don't understand. They think that if they were put/elected there by some people then those are the only ones they have to serve. They do not acknowledge that they should serve the country. As such the disenfranchised start to think that if the power isn't on their side, the complete opposite must be. They drift towards an extreme, whatever that may be since both left and right extremes are very closer to each other - they justify the same things for different reasons.

Once enough are disenfranchised the power balance shifts. But the next to come in power will do the same, this time with the "moral" justification that the others deserve to be punished, swinging the pendulum further to the opposite side. If you repeat this cycle a few times you get to the pendulum's breaking point.

A president with a terrible character to begin with will just fast track the pendulum in one swing. They will add fuel to the fire and watch it burn not only out of pleasure or frustration, but also ineptitude.

Re:Infosec implications of the US Capitol physical breach by foolmeonce on Thursday January 07, 2021 @04:26AM (#25669039)
> Learning living along with the radicals is a good alternative to having a war with them.

I think the original deal of public education was to establish a realistic way to do this. IMO the over focus on the shared benefit of raising income/GDP as the benefit has compromised the long term sustainability of the system.

Re:Infosec implications of the US Capitol physical breach by o-__-o on Thursday January 07, 2021 @04:49AM (#25669206)
Re: those protest turnout photos... how does one relieve themselves when in the middle of the sea of people? In Times Square on New Years, you just don’t drink water and do whatever you can to hold it in. If you leave you’ve lost your spot and you’re stuck at the outskirts where the portapotties are. I assume there are no mobile bathrooms during protests... Im guessing people are always in motion as people migrate to new locations?

I have no clue but have always wondered

Re:Infosec implications of the US Capitol physical breach by pjc50 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @05:48AM (#25669564)
Walls. Or floors.

This is a particular point of the "kettling" tactic, where protestors are herded into an area and kept there for hours.

Re:Infosec implications of the US Capitol physical breach by amanaplanacanal on Thursday January 07, 2021 @09:19AM (#25671267)
It sounds like the crowd was much larger than anyone expected, and the organizers didn’t think to provide bathrooms. Probably the same folks who organized the press conference at the four seasons.