As supposed of advocating lockdown ? How many million of people would suffer from lockdown?

Really not sure how to perform that comparison. How do we equate one death vs one "suffer", and how do we count the "suffers" of people who take ill of covid in the free-for-all scenario? I think the ball is in your court on this one but, frankly, good luck

So not sure then do lockdown anyway?

Well we actually have a very good idea of how many people would die of Covid if the entire population of the UK got Covid.

We don't know how many people have ... whatever you are proposing we compare that against.

So faced with the options of "prevent the deaths of over a million people" and "matz1 doesn't like lockdown but doesn't want to talk about or quantify it" I think the choice is pretty clear. Unless you want to elaborate further?

whats the evidence that lockdown can 'prevent the deaths of over a million people' ? Keep in mind Lockdown can cause death as well.

This is coming from the figures the other anti-lockdown guy gave for the number of deaths they expect - 2% deaths of the UK population is ~1.32 million people. If you don’t get covid, you don’t die of covid. If you lockdown, you don’t get covid. It’s a simplification but it’s a start.

What you have said is that people will suffer under lockdown - but you haven’t really tried to quantify that. You’ve decided that’s a lost cause and have moved onto “lockdown causes death” ! Amazing.

>If you don’t get covid, you don’t die of covid

Likewise If you get covid, doesn't mean you will die from covid. vast majority of people will be fine.

>If you lockdown, you don’t get covid. It’s a simplification but it’s a start

Maybe you don't get covid but if you lockdown, you may suffer/die from starving/mental health issue instead.

>What you have said is that people will suffer under lockdown - but you haven’t really tried to quantify that

Is it really hard to think that lockdown would cause at least some unemployment, some bankruptcy, some mental health issue ?

>“lockdown causes death”

Unemployment has long been associated with a significantly increased risk of death.

I don't have the precise number but how are you sure that the damage from virus is greater than damage from lockdown ?

To add to that, there would also be a large number of people suffering from long-term complications who may not be able to work and will need ongoing medical care.

Indeed there would. The naive estimate of deaths is bad enough, the knock on impact is a bit harder to wrap our heads around in terms of magnitude, but would still be severe.

Basically - this is not nothing, it’s being treated like a Big Deal because it legitimately is. There’s a lot of talk from the “treatment is worse than the disease” crowd, scant few of whom are experts. And like climate change and evolution deniers many of the arguments seem to boil down to conspiracy theories or the It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia argument - “science is a liar ... sometimes”: https://youtu.be/Zgk8UdV7GQ0