News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:WhatsApp gives users an ultimatum: Share data with Facebo... by swiley on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @06:18PM (#25664101)
Stop promoting services with no federation, they'll just end up in the same spot 10 years from now.

EDIT: To the people downvoting this: I said the same thing a long time ago about whatsapp before Facebook bought them.

Re:WhatsApp gives users an ultimatum: Share data with Facebo... by franga2000 on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @07:11PM (#25664811)
Getting people off of WhatsApp onto Signal means taking power away from a closed platform that makes billions from manipulating its users, which is already a win. Signal is not only not that, but is in fact a completely open non-profit project, so it's basically impossible for it to turn into that.

Even moving from Fb to Telegram is an improvement in almost all respects and it's sure as hell a lot easier to do than going straight to Matrix/Riot/whatever it is these days. Don't be a purist and let people have their compromises, lest you end up like the "GNU/" part in front of "Linux".

Re:WhatsApp gives users an ultimatum: Share data with Facebo... by GekkePrutser on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @07:09PM (#25664776)
Facebook messenger and Google hangouts actually had federation. So even that doesn't mean a lot.

However I'd also promote federation-first services like Matrix. Only issue with Matrix is the e2e being so clumsy IMO