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Re:Ask HN: Am I a Bad Programmer? by joshxyz on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @08:05AM (#25657367)
Fair point. But another angle is in order for you to introduce some architectural changes, it better translate to improvements in the business-side metrics, which on most cases in hard to quantify beforehand, which leaves you into babystepping it as your only option.

In your shoes maybe i'd also see it as a challenge in my own soft skills. At the end of the day it's also about selling them that your idea has some potential.

Re:Ask HN: Am I a Bad Programmer? by potta_coffee on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @11:24AM (#25659120)
I'm aware that most of our technical issues can't be fixed without a lot of refactoring / rewriting at this point, but I see our real issues to be "people problems" rather than technology problems.

Your comment gives me something to think about though, thanks.

Re:Ask HN: Am I a Bad Programmer? by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @12:23PM (#25659879)
And it sounds like the "people problems" don't want to be exposed as the problem. So they're trying to make it look like you are the problem.

From what you've said, the code objectively stinks, and the people are objectively unprofessional in problematic ways. You may not be able to fix it without getting rid of the team leaders. If you don't have either the authority to do that or the political pull to make it happen, then your best option is probably to run away.