Re:GitHub is fully available in Iran
by publicola1990 on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @02:27PM
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Israel does go around bombing things in other countries.
A couple strikes per month [1] in response to Syrian missile batteries shooting down Israeli planes is not particularly comparable with threatening to wipe a country off the map. Most of these aren't even direct attacks, Iranians are killed in the crossfire because they're supporting proxy fighters in Syria.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_conflict_d...
You cannot seriously not add attacks on Palestinians. It would be a country too if it weren't occupied and crushed completely. More and more acknowledge this every year.
Then there's all the hits on people by Mossad.
Re:GitHub is fully available in Iran
by dotancohen on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @03:08PM
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As do China, Russia, and NATO. Why single out Israel?
Re:GitHub is fully available in Iran
by core-questions on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @04:23PM
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America does not pay for China and Russia's bombs, at the very least; but something tells me you already knew that.
Re:GitHub is fully available in Iran
by joelbluminator on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @08:51AM
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America bombed the crap out of many countries throughout history. I mean wtf was Vietnam all about? Iraq didn't look that good either.
Re:GitHub is fully available in Iran
by core-questions on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @03:10PM
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Cool, yeah, more bad stuff. Doesn't cancel out what I was talking about at all - this is just a standard "whataboutism". I'd like to see an end to all bombing everywhere. It's easier as a Canadian to hold this perspective, of course; I don't have to condone or defend the past evils of America at all.
Re:GitHub is fully available in Iran
by joelbluminator on Thursday January 07, 2021 @06:56PM
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Whataboutism has its merit in this instance. If the U.S wants to show its moral superioriry it needs to actually try becoming morally superior. Which I am not sure it is. Otherwise it reeks of hypocrisy and people rightly suspects most Americans do not care about China's morals at all but about losing their hegemony to China. So its easy to become a cynic when seeing these debates.
Re:GitHub is fully available in Iran
by dotancohen on Thursday January 07, 2021 @08:53AM
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So the issue is not the people suffering, but rather who's paying. Got it.
I agree, cooperation is what is needed not blackmail. That's what the sanctions are doing: if Iran wants to cooperate economically with other countries, it needs to stop trying to blackmail other countries with threats of nuclear strikes.
As far as why, Iran regularly threatens to wipe other Middle Eastern countries off the map - including the nuclear armed Israel, which would easily trigger a nuclear war in the middle east. The simple reality is that there is not an equivalency between the possession of nuclear weapons by China, Russia, NATO, versus North Korea and Iran. The former don't go around threatening to wipe other countries off the map on a regular basis. Nor does Israel, they don't even officially acknowledge nuclear capacities. The latter do, and in North Korea's case it has created one of the most infamous geopolitical catastrophes of the 20th century. And Iran stands to become a much larger North Korea in a much more volatile part of the world.