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Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by jedberg on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @12:33PM (#25648109)
Waking up "earlier" doesn't really mean anything because you'd also go to bed "earlier". Our bodies don't really time to the sun anymore since the invention of artificial light and blackout shades. It's a lot more dependent on when you turn off your screens and lights.

And kids have been going to school in the dark for a long time already. Talk to the Alaskans who go to school in the dark for a lot of the year. If anything, this would push people to move to a year round school schedule so we can take a longer winter break during the darkest part of the year.

Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by runarberg on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @12:38PM (#25648216)
> Our bodies don't really time to the sun anymore since the invention of artificial light and blackout shades

Is there any research that shows this? I’m not aware of any. In fact there are social reasons people might stay up late. It is a mistake to ignore that.

They had this discussion in Iceland recently (which is on permanent DST; and with heavy population centers way north of Alaskan population centers) and health officials were pretty keen on moving to standard time precisely because teenagers have a hard time waking up so often before sunrise. Yes a big part of the year will always be before sunrise, however on standard that part is shorter.

Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by jedberg on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @12:47PM (#25648380)
> Is there any research that shows this?

Yes, a lot. It's well summarized here:

https://justgetflux.com/research.html

Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by runarberg on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @01:07PM (#25648666)
This is not exactly what we are talking about. Yes artificial blue light disrupt our natural sleep rhythm. Yes there is research that shows this fact. But, that does not mean that we are not effected by the sun.

This research would need to show that blinds and artificial blue light would be sufficient to replace natural sunlight for setting the sleep rhythm to a healthy level. The existence of flux actually suggests the opposite is true, and people need software to prevent artificial blue light from disrupting the sleep rhythm.

Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by pkulak on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @12:38PM (#25648209)
> Our bodies don't really time to the sun anymore

So because we _can_ disregard the sun, we should? I have lights in my home, but the sun still shines in the windows in the morning and on my head while I walk to work. I'd rather have sane policy than worry about always having a portable SAD light available in the winter mornings.

Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by jedberg on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @12:40PM (#25648247)
One hour either way won't make a difference. If you need a SAD light, you'll need it with either time zone. Keep in mind that even with our existing time zones, people can live near one edge or the other, where there is already almost an hour difference between when the sun comes up locally.
Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by pkulak on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @12:46PM (#25648362)
I still contend that it _does_ matter. As someone north of the 45th, if we're adding daylight somewhere, I want it added when my body is supposed to be waking up, not going to sleep.
Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by Wowfunhappy on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @03:44PM (#25650765)
But that's just not true? Getting one more or less hour of sleep can make a huge difference to your health and well-being.