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Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by DarmokJalad1701 on Monday January 04, 2021 @01:37PM (#25635891)
> laborers who (by definition) do not own the productive capacity

Is this really true for a job like SWE where all you need to do the job is a laptop and internet?

Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by minimuffins on Monday January 04, 2021 @01:54PM (#25636132)
Yes because to actually produce the way Google produces you need more than a bunch of laptops. Think about all the kinds of capital Google owns from IP to massive data centers.

On top of that they have huge sway with governments and a hand in control of cultural production.

It's easier to start a software company than an oil company because it takes way less fixed capital but the same rules as the rest of political economy apply on the whole.

Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by 8note on Monday January 04, 2021 @01:50PM (#25636075)
The SWE does not own the data center though
Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by scsilver on Monday January 04, 2021 @05:20PM (#25639077)
You also need a developer community, standards bodies, universities, regulatory bodies. You are made valueable by the interplay of all those institutions. Guess who makes your laptop and provides access to your internet, its directories, and communication channels, the same companies you have to work for.
Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by minimuffins on Monday January 04, 2021 @06:16PM (#25639616)
Yes, this is the commodity fetish in action. The laptop seems to just appear before me when I fork over a thousand bucks, conjured out of the ether of "the market." But of course there are long (often blood soaked) supply chains, all with their own interesting international, political, developmental history, that brought the thing to me. But the details are mystified by the complexity of all the actors and processes involved.

The feeling that tech work is mostly mental and somehow "immaterial," like we're just beyond all that concrete meatspace stuff, is really an illusion.