Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize
by wrsh07 on Monday January 04, 2021 @11:47AM
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I think one might reasonably say that a company like Google is already stifling with its bureaucracy. The problem is that the existing bureaucracy protects the company and managers and not the workers
Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize
by mlyle on Monday January 04, 2021 @02:22PM
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Yah. I just have bad memories of not being able to move my monitor from one end of a desk to another without a worker in a union filing a grievance. Just because you have lots of bureaucracy doesn't mean you can't have a bunch more.
Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize
by wrsh07 on Monday January 04, 2021 @05:38PM
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To be clear, that's about moving equipment, right?
(I've had that issue as well, where the people who managed the equipment were in a union)
Note: I think that's a misapplication of their grievances - it's one thing if your employer makes you move your office equipment to avoid hiring movers, a single person updating their desk or location should be an explicit exception
But I agree with you!! Unions can cause bad policy, and this is a reasonable example.
I do think that unions are both the kind of mechanism that eliminates the worst workplace abuses ... but contributes to a workplace being policy driven and stifling.
There's already reasons why larger employers institute lots of policy and remove individual team, worker, and manager autonomy. But a counterparty demanding a lot of these to be committed to in contract forming its own parallel bureaucracy can multiply these effects.