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Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by acdha on Monday January 04, 2021 @09:49AM (#25631966)
> This will demoralize engineers to work smarter & harder.

This is, of course, why Germany is famously an engineering wasteland with no notable impact on the global economy.

In reality, it all comes down to contracts: union employees can have performance incentives just like everyone else. The primary difference is that they’re above board and consistent because they come from a legal agreement rather than private negotiations between individuals and companies.

Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by delfinom on Monday January 04, 2021 @11:49AM (#25633910)
Germany's concept of unions are far better than the American model that just ends up controlled by mafia families (they still are in NY) or union administration that pad their salaries because the way unions are structured and protected by the NRLB basically encourages hostile centralization.
Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by cmarschner on Monday January 04, 2021 @10:56AM (#25632917)
>This is, of course, why Germany is famously an engineering wasteland with no notable impact on the global economy.

I suppose you're only referring to _software engineering_?

Because in traditional engineering Germany is a powerhouse, with countless market leaders in their individual niches, plus the ubiquitous car and machinery industries.

Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by acdha on Monday January 04, 2021 @11:00AM (#25632971)
I was being sarcastic — Germany's union system is an existence proof that the claims made about unions in the U.S., to the extent that they're even true here, are artifacts of a bad system rather than inherent to the concept.