Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union
by Veelox on Monday January 04, 2021 @09:10AM
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From the official union website's list of values
> Social and economic justice are paramount to achieving just outcomes. We will prioritize the needs of the worst off. Neutrality never helps the victim.
For my eyes, that is absolutely dripping with progressive ideology. If I am going a union I want it to be non-political. This seems more like a progressive advocating group than a software workers guild. Count me out.
Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union
by throwaway3699 on Monday January 04, 2021 @09:50AM
(#25631997)
"Just outcomes" is a huge signal for prioritizing equity over equality. Other than the obvious political ramifications, it probably means high performers and low performers alike will both get the same outcome from a union, leading to mediocrity overall.
Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union
by choeger on Monday January 04, 2021 @07:57AM
(#25630699)
Simple. These other people never made such claims in an article.
Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union
by beebmam on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:18AM
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Do people who don't publish their views not filled with ideological fervor?
This isn't an argument...
Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union
by darkerside on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:56AM
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I believe the claim here is that, people should have rights to their own strong ideological opinions, but not the right to enforce their own upon others.
Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union
by logicchains on Monday January 04, 2021 @09:03AM
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> Do people who don't publish their views not filled with ideological fervor?
I mean, that's pretty much exactly what fervour means? We'd never say "Joe is a fervent supporter of X!" if Joe never talked about X.
Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union
by thrill on Monday January 04, 2021 @02:07PM
(#25636304)
"We" would do, and frequently have done, just that if it supports "our" agenda. Hence the rise of the use of such broad brushes as "silence is complicity", etc.
Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union
by oh_sigh on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:18AM
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Is "pragmatically want a return on investment" ideological fervor? Words need to mean something at some point.
Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union
by eeZah7Ux on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:25AM
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The idea that a certain pattern of economic behaviors is "pragmatic", "non-ideological" and even "non-political", while others are, is in itself a good example of ideology.
Perhaps Google already is a tool of the cancel culture (cue the X-files intro music)?